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mell says

It makes it harder but much shorter

You've said this many times, but saying it doesn't make it so. I'm wondering how making a recession into a depression makes it shorter? How does making more people unemployed shorten the duration?

And there seems to be others who agree with you. So anyone--how does making a recession "harder" shorten the duration?

RentingForHalfTheCost says

Our economy shouldn't be so dependant on growth. Growth should be a blessing.

An economy built on growth makes me very nervous. I remember a video that was floating around about the destruction of resources on the planet. It was basically saying that we have allowed corporations and advertisers to fuel a growth based economy by glorifying self-ish, hyper-consumption. This has resulted in a criminal destruction of resources on the planet. We fuel the growth and the concentration of wealth by literally destroying the things that keep us alive.

Bellingham Bill says

That's bullshit framing.

The problem is the corporate press has controlled the debate in this country since the 1980s.

I think greed and entitlement fueled by a corporate press are like a virus.

When I say entitlement, I don't mean benefits to the poor. I mean entitlement to have and consume more. The "Baby, I deserve it!" culture is a toxin.

YesYNot says

He campaigned in 2012 on basically the same line. He won two elections on the same campaign idea in 2008 and 2012. Let's get on with it.

there are always a lot of "obstacles" in congress, all they do is hinder progress.

Mark D says

there are always a lot of "obstacles" in congress, all they do is hinder progress.

True, but I am surprised the repubs are not getting the message. They lost two elections where the economy was one of the biggest issues. The other guy won both with the same message. You would think that the repubs would see the writing on the wall, and go with the flow.

YesYNot says

Mark D says

there are always a lot of "obstacles" in congress, all they do is hinder progress.

True, but I am surprised the repubs are not getting the message. They lost two elections where the economy was one of the biggest issues. The other guy won both with the same message. You would think that the repubs would see the writing on the wall, and go with the flow.

there are also a lot of lobbyists and dark forces working behind the scene.