patrick.net

rooemoore says

So now you disown the propaganda video that you used to make your case.

More guns = more gun violence
Less guns = less gun violence

Want to try to prove that wrong again?

More guns = more gun violence
Less guns = less gun violence
Give the less guns number to those that shouldn't be gun owners = even More gun violence than the 'more gun violence' rate

It is true that lowering the number of available firearms will have an impact toward less gun violence (see statistics in USA for examples. States with tougher gun regulations have less gun related violence. It is not the sole contributing factor but is likely one of them.) Less guns isn't the only thing that will ensure more general safety, and is not, forgive me, the magic bullet that solves this problem.

Automobiles didn't become safer because of seat belts alone : speed limits, air bags, alphabet breaks, tough enforcement, licensing, periodic re-testing to prove competent operation, updated laws regarding cell-phone use ... etc. etc.

The US could decide guns are not a worthwhile item for possession and outlaw them. I think we will find America is not moving toward that, but toward stricter regulations. So what are those new regulations going to be?

More bans on rifle types when 75% of the gun violence is done by pistols? Or, are we going to seriously come together and put multiple measures in place that actually make sense, and stand a chance of ending some of the madness?

There is this minority: "More guns for everyone, it is the only way to safety."
There is this minority: "No further gun regulations are needed, it's because of (blame something here)."
There is this minority: no guns for anyone, it is the only way to safety.
There is this majority: tougher regulations for responsible gun ownership, it is the correct way to safety, along with other issues to address like mental health.

Let's focus on that majority.

Rew says

More bans on rifle types when 75% of the gun violence is done by pistols? Or, are we going to seriously come together and put multiple measures in place that actually make sense, and stand a chance of ending some of the madness?

the very first time a weapon takes it upon itself to commit an act of violence, (be it a bat, knife, gun, truck, pillow, chain, rope, bomb, or poison), then I will be the very first one to agree with you. Until that time, a law only effects people that react to law with reason. And with the dope smoking pukes in control of the liberal-left machine, "reason" is not popular, but "ransom" is.

Bap33 says

Rew says

More bans on rifle types when 75% of the gun violence is done by pistols? Or, are we going to seriously come together and put multiple measures in place that actually make sense, and stand a chance of ending some of the madness?

the very first time a weapon takes it upon itself to commit an act of violence, (be it a bat, knife, gun, truck, pillow, chain, rope, bomb, or poison), then I will be the very first one to agree with you. Until that time, a law only effects people that react to law with reason. And with the dope smoking pukes in control of the liberal-left machine, "reason" is not popular, but "ransom" is.

Beyond silly. Weapons are already heavily regulated, and for good reason. You do realize the majority of terrorism in the USA is domestic in origin? You want WMDs in the hands of just anyone? Too extreme an example ... ok what about a 105mm howitzer for me? What about just one 105mm shell? Wait ... Actually, Santa, I want a military humvee with one of those automatic grenade launchers ... for recreational enjoyment.

The point is the weapon being available, and lightly regulated, can be used to great harm. The majority of gun violence occurs by non gun owners ... non gun owners who get access to a firearm from their family or friends. What if their family or friend had something more dangerous than multiple pistols. An RPG? A
Browning 50 cal mounted to a pickup? A mortar?

Extend your logic some. It doesn't play out well. Ask any pro gun law dog for their stance on firearm regulation. They won't be in favor of full autos in people's hands. There are regulations now and for good reason. We need some more ... not less.