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Today Is NOT The Day To Talk About Gun Control,Today Is The Day To Finally DO SO


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2012 Dec 14, 5:09am   30,226 views  84 comments

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Gun laws need to change, if cops get psych tests to carry weapons then so should the public.

http://globalgrind.com/news/connecticut-elementary-school-schooling-gun-control-michael-skolnik

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57   GraooGra   2012 Dec 15, 7:02am  

Quigley says

Autism has been increasing in prevalence up to about 1:300 now. That's a lot of potentially unstable kids out there. What happens when they all grow up?

I don't think it is increasing. I think that people are more aware of it and there is more diagnosis done.

58   drew_eckhardt   2012 Dec 15, 7:03am  

Yes.

Gun control laws need to change.

Victim disarmament laws like the Gun-Free School Zones must be repealed so that evil people aren't free to kill people, reload, kill more people, reload, and keep killing until they quit or the police finally show up.

While it's theoretically possible to disarm a population in practice it does not work. Jamaica banned handguns in 1974, used warrant-less searches to collect them, had secret trials, and imposed mandatory life sentences. After that their murder rate surged to 60 per 100,000.

The best we can do is allow potential victims (or responsible adults around them in the case of children) the means to fight back.

59   GraooGra   2012 Dec 15, 7:05am  

Peter P says

Is Autism even real?

It is neurological. You can see that these kids are odd.

60   boldej   2012 Dec 15, 7:11am  

Study the history of the second amendment and you'll find that the 2nd amendment was always interpreted as referring to "well regulated militia's" until the 1980's when the individual rights argument began to be pushed by NRA backed Republicans. Read about it here: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2012/04/the-second-amendment.html

61   GraooGra   2012 Dec 15, 7:18am  

Peter P says

GraooGra says

Peter P says

Is Autism even real?

It is neurological. You can see that these kids are odd.

There are so many "odd" kids. Or perhaps some are just different.

I only cannot understand why that mother kept guns when she knew that her son was not quite there? Why any mother with boys in the house would keep guns for that matter?

62   GraooGra   2012 Dec 15, 7:22am  

Peter P says

There are so many "odd" kids. Or perhaps some are just different.

This is a good point. In the US most of these kids are quickly labeled and medications are provided. It is easier to give a pill than to watch you child.
In other societies people tend to live closer and they protect and watch and accept these kids more. Look, his brother didn't even see him since 2010.

64   121212   2012 Dec 15, 7:51am  

Last Year Handguns Killed

48 People in Japan
8 in Great Britain
34 in Switzerland
52 in Canada
21 in Sweden
42 in W.Germany?
10,728 in the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

65   Homeboy   2012 Dec 15, 8:10am  

lost and confused:
We have had a war on drugs, war on porns, war on abortion all going on and of course the war on guns by the far lefties. But drugs are readily available, porn is nowmainstream, people will always have abortions if they want to and the same for anything they want . They will-do you always drive under the speed limit?

I guess I'll ask you again since you didn't answer. Do you really think these things are comparable to guns? I've noticed that you have a tendency to have knee jerk reactions to things.

66   Homeboy   2012 Dec 15, 8:17am  

Guns have been around for centuries. wtf is people still thinking we can stop them.Mexico has strong gun control laws-does it really work for them? Anyways, it was already illegal to bring a gun into that school-didn't deter him did it?

Stupidity is to think gun control -a device that has been aroundfor centuries -willsomehow control humannature.Itcan't -people will just find a way arounditandwewillend up like Mexico with only the violent underground and cops having guns
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Japan has very strict gun control laws and shootings are quite rare there, even within their mafia. way to cherry pick your example. And then just call anyone who disagrees with you 'stupid'. Real classy.

67   121212   2012 Dec 15, 8:37am  

Why the excuses R'Pukes?
Why continue making excuses, this country requires a conversation, your only interested in creating a starwman and false narratives.

typical r'puke mentality. Typical.

69   121212   2012 Dec 15, 11:24am  

GraooGra says

We should have better control over meds and mentally disturbed people.

Have you seen the Paul Ryan budget?

Just like Paul Ryan wants to cut mentally ill benefits they actually in real life cut $300 Million from securing our embassy's.

BENGHAZI!

70   Raw   2012 Dec 15, 12:13pm  

The responsiblity for this shooting lies with the NRA, the politicians they bribe and lunatics who support them.
Check out the cowardly NRA:
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-nras-facebook-page-disappeared-right-after-the-newtown-massacre-2012-12

71   boldej   2012 Dec 15, 12:46pm  

Want to get a total gun ban passed next week and bypass all the NRA wingnuts? All the liberal media has to do is get some balls and publish ALL the crime scene photos of Sandy Hook Elementary.

72   Raw   2012 Dec 15, 1:24pm  

These things tend to die down over time and it's business as usual, but one day it won't and the NRA will be history. Good riddance.

73   Buster   2012 Dec 15, 2:03pm  

Small penis size + guns = murder. Restrict gun sales and murder rates would go down big time. Discover/engineer a way to increase penis size and no one would purchase guns again and murders by guns would be reduced by 99%.

74   Bigsby   2012 Dec 15, 2:54pm  

GraooGra says

It is not outdated. This is leftist propaganda. They would like to change it because it is not in sync with the Communist Manifesto. Don't be gullible.It protects your rights as an individual, against the government as well. What if they decide that 1st amendment is also outdated and they start limit my speech and yours?

Not in sync with the Communist Manifesto? Good grief.

75   Bigsby   2012 Dec 15, 2:56pm  

121212 says

You are Darrell, aren't you?

76   121212   2012 Dec 15, 3:15pm  

Guns are irrelevant speech is everything

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77   121212   2012 Dec 15, 3:27pm  

The Professor says

"Those that forget their history are condemned to repeat it".

"People without knowledge of their past have no future.Knw More About Ur Roots!"

.....................and what is there to dislike?>

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78   121212   2012 Dec 15, 4:03pm  

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79   GraooGra   2012 Dec 15, 11:50pm  

Bigsby says

Not in sync with the Communist Manifesto? Good grief.

Don't you know leftists/progressives are Marxists? They despise The American Constitution and freedom it stands for. It is incompatible with their ideology.

80   121212   2012 Dec 16, 2:32am  

Feinstein will introduce assault weapons ban in Senate

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/12/16/feinstein-will-introduce-assault-weapons-ban-in-senate/

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) vowed Sunday to introduce legislation to ban assault weapons at the start of the next Congress.
“I’m going to introduce in the Senate and the same bill will be introduced in the House, a bill to ban assault weapons. It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession. Not retroactively but prospectively. And it will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets. So there will be a bill. We’ve been working on it now for a year,” Feinstein said on NBC’s “Meet The Press” during a discussion about guns following Friday’s deadly mass shooting as a Connecticut school.
Feinstein said she was confident such a measure could pass. In a separate interview on Sunday, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said he too was was optimistic about the prospect of passing a gun control measure.
“I think we can get something done,” said Schumer on CBS’s “Face The Nation.” Schumer advocated focusing on three areas: Banning assault weapons, limiting the size of clips, and making it harder for “mentally unstable” individuals to obtain firearms.

81   Suburban Gal   2012 Dec 16, 3:30am  

Raw says

...but one day it won't and the NRA will be history. Good riddance.

Fine with me. I could care less about the NRA and feels it does far more harm than good when it comes to this kind of thing.

83   MisdemeanorRebel   2012 Dec 17, 12:03am  

Guns are banned in Brazil, and allegedly tightly controlled in Mexico. In Russia, if you aren't a Siberian hunter you can forget about legally owning firearms.

How's the drug war, another ban on items, working out?

Guns will never be banned in this country. There would be an insurrection first.

Culture and lack of support for mentally ill people cause the violence problems. The latter includes allowing those with severe problems - as this guy had - to be walking around to begin with. Also, mainstreaming kids with severe problems in regular schools is also a BAD idea, and it's mostly done for the vanity of the parents, regardless of the dangers to the kid (Bullying, Ostracism) and the kids around him (blowback/rage).

In most of Europe, the mentally ill children are NOT mainstreamed in with the regular kids.

Obviously this kid did not have a good mainstreaming experience.

84   Bigsby   2012 Dec 17, 12:14am  

thunderlips11 says

How's the drug war, another ban on items, working out?

Hardly a meaningful comparison seeing as the issue clearly isn't going to be about a comprehensive ban of all weapons.

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