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Still going down, even after tax loss selling has presumably stopped.
Companies usually take a lot of write offs at the end of the year. They get a lot of tax deductions this way. Most important to look at is the cash flow, everything else is just accounting gimmicks.
syrups are not selling in mature markets. (which reflects lower selling price of the machine and unfavorable mix "ie. lack of repeat customer).
If you want to invest in SODA, you have to look at the growth or lack of growth in syrup sale layering out inventory build-out of more SKU and new market.
Personally, I think SODA at home is quite stupid (anywhere in the world) when you can gets lots of them cheap in a million or variety cheap at Costco, supermarket or your local liquor store. Coffee for the adult at home --- yes, SODA at home --- WTF?
And as a follow up question to Patrick, how much Syrup/CO2 have you purchased in the past 12 months?
Mgmt is guiding a flat Q4 and likely a loss in Q1. There it goes based on cheap PE argument, (it's now expensive because forward earnings are poof, lol)
FY14 quarter estimate of 3.24 or so may be off by, I don't know, $3.00.
Down to $35.65/sh
http://news.yahoo.com/canadian-minister-wades-sodastream-row-093112689.html
Canadian minister wades into SodaStream row
Ottawa (AFP) - The employment minister of Canada, a strong supporter of Israel, has waded into the spat over Oxfam breaking with US actress Scarlett Johansson for endorsing an Israeli soft drink firm that operates in the occupied West Bank.
Minister Jason Kenney, who is also minister of multiculturalism in Canada, extended an ironic thank you to Oxfam for bringing the Israeli firm SodaStream to his attention.
Last week Johansson made headlines when she quit her role as Oxfam ambassador after the NGO said her promotion of SodaStream was "incompatible" with her role at the international aid agency.
SodaStream, which manufactures machines for making carbonated drinks at home, has 25 factories around the world, including one that operates in a settlement east of Jerusalem.
"Bought a nice @SodaStream unit at the @HudsonsBayCo. Thanks to @Oxfam for the tip," the minister said in a tweet.
Oxfam calls for a boycott of any Israeli firm operating in settlements in the occupied West Bank, which are illegal under international law.
The minister's message also featured a photo of a SodaStream beverage machine with its brand name clearly visible.
It also bore the letters "BDSfail" in reference to the campaign calling for "boycott, divestment, sanctions" of Israeli products and goods.
Canada is a strong backer of Israel, and Prime Minister Stephen Harper visited Israel late last month.
Coca Cola to enter home soda market http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2014/02/05/bad-news-for-sodastream-the-elephant-has-entered-the-room/
Coca Cola to enter home soda market http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intelligence/2014/02/05/bad-news-for-sodastream-the-elephant-has-entered-the-room/
Pepsi thinking about it too.
The Soda gadget may be fun to use but if you are interested in an investment, buy Coke.
SODA Down to 33.35/sh
The Soda gadget may be fun to use but if you are interested in an investment, buy Coke.
So true. Coke is at 42.24/sh
Most people drink soda NOT because they want fizzy water. It is a consumption of brand.
Does Starbucks sell coffee? Or does it sell an emotion?
Going private for around $40/share.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sodastream-buyout-talks-bloomberg-160646571.html
Down in pre-market trading:
$22.60 Down $4.97 (18.03%) 9:25AM EDT
SodaStream Shares Plunge To All-Time Low On 53% Income Decline
Shares of SodaStream International were down close to 18% in pre-market trading Tuesday setting up the stock to open below $23 for the first time ever. The stock’s previously low of $27.44 was hit on Monday as shares were down 42.7% year-to-date before the morning plunge.
In a preliminary earnings report released Tuesday SodaStream estimated its third quarter revenue will come in at $125 million, down 13.5% from the same period last year and more than $25 million short of Wall Street analysts’ consensus call for modest year-over-year growth. The home carbonation system maker says its operating income will be approximately $8.5 million, down 52.8% from the same period last year.
The Israeli company’s 2014 woes began in early January when, in a preliminary earnings release similar to Tuesday’s, it told investors 2013 earnings would be 23% lower than it had forecast earlier. Things appeared to be getting worse in February when Coca-Cola and Green Mountain Coffee announced a partnership to develop an at-home soda making system.
The Israeli company’s 2014 woes began in early January when, in a preliminary earnings release similar to Tuesday’s, it told investors 2013 earnings would be 23% lower than it had forecast earlier.
What's wrong with those israelis? Don't they know that all they have to do is a share buyback? They could buy back every outstanding share except one and then any sales they made would look great on their EPS statement.
SODA flat today.
SODA lost it's fizzle moths ago.
It is fizz, not fizzle. :)
Fizzle is how Snoop Dog would say it.. Like "Sodizzle losts it's fizzle"
SODA flat today.
SODA lost it's fizzle moths ago.
It is fizz, not fizzle. :)
Fizzle is how Snoop Dog would say it.. Like "Sodizzle losts it's fizzle"
bgamall4 says
There are times when you have to take a moral stand, you dumb bruin.
An occupation has traditionally been looked upon as a form of slavery.
How easy it is to take a moral stand by not buying a product that you wouldn't buy anyways...It looks good on paper though.
Down to $21.79/sh
I still want to know if anyone here actually bought this POS stock.
I like their soda machine, but their syrups need serious work. They could be so much better if they improved on that. I'm going to send them an email as a consumer and as a shareholder (ha!).
Below $18/sh now!
17.92 Down 0.81(4.33%) 3:28PM EST - Nasdaq Real Time Price
I buy cases of soda at Costco from time to time. It usually breaks down to around 28 cents a 12-oz can. I use my Costco AE card which give me 2% off.
Lately my pee has been coming out carbonated. Is that a problem?
It might help keep your toilet clean.
Down again!
17.34 Down 1.55(8.21%) 10:53AM EST - Nasdaq Real Time Price
http://www.thestreet.com/story/13058131/1/sodastream-international-soda-drops-today-on-fourth-quarter-revenue-miss.html
SodaStream International (SODA) Stock Drops Today on Fourth-Quarter Revenue Miss
NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- Shares of SodaStream International (SODA - Get Report) fell 8.47% to $17.29 in morning trading Wednesday after the home carbonation product manufacturer reported its fourth-quarter earnings.
Adjusted earnings soared to $7.5 million, or 35 cents a share, from $700,000, or 3 cents a share, from the same period one year earlier. This beat the FactSet consensus estimate of earnings of 17 cents a share.
Revenue dropped to $126.5 million from $168.1 million, which missed the FactSet consensus estimate of $127.1 million. The company cited decreased demand for sparkling water makers and flavors in the U.S. during the holiday season.
Patrick,
We all gamble trying to make a easy fiat. I spend a $1 on the lottery & never miss by more than 6 numbers.
Ah well, it was a fun gamble. They had a few things going for them, like a product that's really useful, but what they did not have was a dividend.
Lesson learned (yet again): never buy any stock that does not pay a dividend.
The product was not useful. Making your own soda taste nasty and people gave up on it. Hence revenue dropped like a mofo.
But companies with increasing dividends are winners. So dividends can go up or down. If you get the latter , you will lose $$ just as easy.
it works perfectly if all you want is fizzy water.
sure, dividends can go up or down, but a company that is consistently paying out a dividend has proved it has some real earning power, and the guts to return some of its cash to the rightful owners, the shareholders. without that, it's much less certain that the company should even exist (from the shareholder's point of view).
money talks.
I only buy stocks that pay dividends!!! I have no defined benefit pension plan, and never will. My plan is to just buy dividend paying stocks. When I have enough income from them, I can retire, or just not give a shit if I have a job or not.
Ah well, it was a fun gamble
I find it remarkable in that during a time when the market went up approx. 30%, you managed to find (and invest in) a stock that lost over 60% of its value. This (and your decision not to buy 15 years ago in Palo Alto) are your only two publicly announced financial moves. Are you always so snakebitten?
17.77 Down 1.34(7.01%) 12:01PM EDT - Nasdaq Real Time Price
SodaStream Revenue Falls on Currency Headwinds, Low Demand
16.46 Down 0.81(4.69%) 9:41AM EDT
Dropping faster than Apple right now!
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sodastream-profit-sales-fall-below-expectations-2015-08-05
SodaStream profit, sales fall below expectations
SodaStream International Ltd. SODA, -5.64% reported on Wednesday a second-quarter net profit that fell to $960,000, or 5 cents a share, from $9.2 million, or 43 cents a share, in the same period a year ago. Excluding non-recurring items, such as restructuring-related charges, adjusted earnings per share came to 17 cents, below the FactSet consensus of 31 cents. Revenue fell to $99.8 million from $141.2 million, below the FactSet consensus of $106.3 million, with sales in all geographic regions and in all product categories declining. Changes in currency rates reduced revenue by $16.9 million. Gross margin declined to 50.3% from 50.5%. "As we previously discussed, the first half of 2015 would be a challenging period due to implementation of our global restructuring and growth plan combined with changes in foreign currency exchange rates," said Chief Executive Daniel Birnbaum. The stock, which lost 3.3% in light premarket trade, has dropped 14% year to date through Tuesday, while the S&P 500 has gained 1.7%.
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My wife bought me a Sodastream water carbonator and I like it because I can make fizzy water for about 30 cents a liter instead of paying $1 a liter in the store. OTOH I was kind of annoyed at their proprietary bottles and connectors which really do nothing more than hold and dispense carbon dioxide, but cost $15 to refill.
I'm getting kind of a good deal, but they're getting a really good deal because I know it can't cost more than $1 for them to refill that thing.
So... instead of being annoyed, I looked up the stock (SODA) and they have no debt, a P/E of 25, and seem to be growing rapidly. I bought some of the stock today. Mistake? What am I missing?