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2013 Feb 4, 10:59am   35,588 views  139 comments

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132   CL   2013 Feb 7, 7:51am  

leo707 says

As far as Dan goes I have seen him admit fallibility on a few occasions when faced with evidence contrary to his opinions.

And that's all we can ask of anyone.

133   leo707   2013 Feb 7, 8:16am  

Dan8267 says

However, on the pro-gun-control side, there's a valid argument that a gun in the household with kids is more likely to result in the kid shooting himself than the parents shooting an armed intruder.

Whenever I have looked at the studies that show that, the vast majority of the homes where the kids are getting accidentally shot are homes with other problems: domestic abuse, criminal activity, alcohol/drug abuse, etc.

Even with that said I think that any home with gun(s)+kids should be required to have any and all guns locked at all times when there is not an adult directly supervising. Because of my kids I do not currently keep any guns loaded and unlocked. However, I have been shopping around for one of those quick access handgun gun safes (anyone have experience or a recommendation for one of these?).

I think that every parent--during all the other giving birth/hospital discharge stuff--should be made plainly aware of the dangers of unlocked guns. In the piles of booklets and pamphlets there was all kinds of advice on child proofing, etc. I don't recall a single mention of guns, or anyone at the hospital mentioning guns. Our pediatrician did ask if when had guns and the conversation was about 5 seconds:

Pediatrician: "Do you have guns in the house?"

Us: "Yes."

Pediatrician: "Are they locked?"

Us: "Yes."

Pediatrician: "OK."

And that was all.

134   JodyChunder   2013 Feb 7, 8:31am  

Dan8267 says

point out any falsehood including lies of omission.

FWIW -- off the top of my head, they didn't really cover the Putin protests at all. I don't recall any coverage of or even a mention of the Pussy Riot trial, either.

I like RT, by the way. I like the BBC better, though!

135   nope   2013 Feb 7, 8:52am  

Forget Russia specific issues. Read their coverage on Syria. Its practically a transcription of Russian government officials statements on the conflict.

136   JodyChunder   2013 Feb 7, 9:01am  

FortWayne says

Another good reason to have a gun.

Agreed, but a crossbow is better.

137   FortWayne   2013 Feb 7, 9:25am  

JodyChunder says

FortWayne says

Another good reason to have a gun.

Agreed, but a crossbow is better.

Those don't do too well outside Victoville Jody. :)

138   JodyChunder   2013 Feb 7, 9:33am  

FortWayne says

Those don't do too well outside Victoville Jody. :)

Nothing to do with Vville -- there was a study conducted by the CIA from a few years back citing the crossbow as the single-most effective handheld weapon for intimidating an enemy/intruder.

I know there's been some progress made on repeating crossbows as well in the last few years, though nothing terribly elegant has yet emerged.

139   leo707   2013 Feb 8, 8:29am  

IDDQD says

leo707 says

I have been shopping around for one of those quick access handgun gun safes (anyone have experience or a recommendation for one of these?).

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/192-0959196-6858010?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=Gun+Vault

I have been using their two-shelf "deluxe" model for last 3 or 4 years. No complaints so far.

Thanks.

I have been thinking of getting one with fingerprint entry. Is there a reason why you did not go with that?

I was thinking very simple, one shelf, I don't want to be fumbling around in the dark.

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