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Rin says

Homeboy says

Rin says

Read chanakya4773's comments on the firemen, in terms of saving lives and the payscale.

Oh, I see. You acknowledge the validity of the argument when it's used by someone you agree with, but claim it's an invalid argument when I use it. Nice....

OK, so how many firemen do you know, who earn from $200K to $300K? Yes, I'm now using your argument concerning payscale.

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/03/03/3446569/see-average-police-firefighter.html?appSession=866362614715382

CaptainShuddup says

Quit saying Doctors earn their money.

The last time I checked we got a $1200 dollar bill just for the Doctor to tell us what we already knew and give my wife a glorified aspirin. He was in the room for a grand total of 10 minutes. After a three hour wait in the split back gown.

This is the problem. Everyone thinks it is just this simple but it is not. People see the doctor... they get charged 1200, they assume the doctor charged 1200 and he got it all. Guess again...

Go home, boy.

Homeboy says

elliemae says

Attacking people for their opinions is boring for the rest of us to read.

So is making up strawmen and arguing for the sake of argument.

Meccos says

This is the problem. Everyone thinks it is just this simple but it is not. People see the doctor... they get charged 1200, they assume the doctor charged 1200 and he got it all. Guess again...

Faulty logic. It does no matter whether the doctor got $1200 or "only" $1000 after paying for a receptionist, nurse, rent, consumables, whatever. It is still way too damn much for 5min of work. Probably by a factor of 10X, at least. For something like a 5min consult they should just have some minimum charge, at most $50.

There is no way an office practitioner could justify charging more than $400/hour, real face-to-face time with patients.

SoftShell says

Go home, boy.

Your brain is going soft, shell.

justme says

Faulty logic. It does no matter whether the doctor got $1200 or "only" $1000 after paying for a receptionist, nurse, rent, consumables, whatever. It is still way too damn much for 5min of work. Probably by a factor of 10X, at least. For something like a 5min consult they should just have some minimum charge, at most $50.

Of course it matters, idiot. You have to look at who is profiting most from the outrageous charges. It's the giant healthcare companies, not the doctors. The doctor is not actually taking home $1200 for 5 minutes of work. Nor is he taking home $1000.

chanakya4773 says

Now , when you are stuck in a fire in your house, the firefighter will demand 1 million dollars to save you because he had to do 1) 2) 3) and 4) and also because he is "SAVING LIVES"

When is the last fire you saw in your neighborhood?