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Home prices still 50% too low in Bay Area - rent STILL cost twice the mortgage.
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2013 Mar 28, 3:45am 51,986 views 157 comments
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CameronCrazy
2013 Apr 10, 12:06am
I bought 1405 e Atlanta drive in 85040 for $46K...
Is this the property you’re talking about: http://1.usa.gov/ZESUUP
Needless to say, you’re a genius, Fields Medal-winning mathematician and I’m just a stupid Duke University student, but why do Maricopa County records show you bought 1405 E Atlanta Ave Phoenix 85040 for $121,900 in 10/2008? Does $46K = $121,900? And why does it show the bank foreclosed on you on 8/2010 in the amount of $126,362 and you needed a Special Warranty Deed to reclaim it?
I don’t know because I’m an idiot. I’m trying to use a calculator but the power button just turns the TV on and off. Please help!
Bigsby
2013 Apr 10, 12:15am
I bought 1405 e Atlanta drive in 85040 for $46K...
Is this the property you’re talking about: http://1.usa.gov/ZESUUP
Needless to say, you’re a genius, Fields Medal-winning mathematician and I’m just a stupid Duke University student, but why do Maricopa County records show you bought 1405 E Atlanta Ave Phoenix 85040 for $121,900 in 10/2008? Does $46K = $121,900? And why does it show the bank foreclosed on you on 8/2010 in the amount of $126,362 and you needed a Special Warranty Deed to reclaim it?
I don’t know because I’m an idiot. I’m trying to use a calculator but the power button just turns the TV on and off. Please help!
Looks rather like the sale price for someone else before the property was foreclosed on in 2010, wouldn't you say? Does his deed date not say 6/17/2011? I know you are trying to score one over Roberto, but I'd hazard a guess that you are rather off target on this one.
CameronCrazy
2013 Apr 10, 12:26am
Looks rather like the sale price before the property was foreclosed on in 2010 and presumably Roberto then bought it. I know you are trying to score one over Roberto, but I'd hazard a guess that you are rather off target on this one.
Then it's interesting that there's no record of a sale after the foreclosure, let alone one for $46K.
Bigsby
2013 Apr 10, 12:32am
Looks rather like the sale price before the property was foreclosed on in 2010 and presumably Roberto then bought it. I know you are trying to score one over Roberto, but I'd hazard a guess that you are rather off target on this one.
Then it's interesting that there's no record of a sale after the foreclosure, let alone one for $46K.
Why is the deed recorded for June 2011 then?
CameronCrazy
2013 Apr 10, 12:49am
Why is the deed recorded for June 2011 then?
That's when the Special Warranty Deed was signed and the property was reclaimed. I'm sure I could find a copy of the deed before you could find any record of that property being sold for $46,000.
Bigsby
2013 Apr 10, 12:35pm
Why is the deed recorded for June 2011 then?
That's when the Special Warranty Deed was signed and the property was reclaimed. I'm sure I could find a copy of the deed before you could find any record of that property being sold for $46,000.
Go ahead then as you seem set on trying to show he is lying. As for myself, I was under the impression that a special warranty deed is what the bank would give Roberto when he purchased the property from them so as to limit their liability.
David Losh
2013 Apr 11, 12:48am
APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says
People talk about the Valley miracle as if it was a miracle.
What the fuck? Detailed, on the spot analysis of a boom era from APOCALYSEFUCK?
Nicely put!
Oh I don't know, I think CA is on a decline. We have way too many pension
obligations guaranteed, and way too few children to propagate the future.
This. CA will have a problem reducing tax before they figure out ways to tackle public pension and medical cost. Every other state, too, but I think CA is in a deeper hole than some other states.
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So my friend is moving up there with his tech job. (they moved the factory workers to china, moved R&D/management to bay area. nice huh!).
I ran the numbers and if you buy a 1m home you live there for under 2000 a month.
A similar rental home costs upwards of 4000 a month.
Heres two examples:
average 3 bedroom home in redwood city asking 4000 for rent:
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/apa/3690240753.html
average 3 bd home in same city which SOLD for 1m.
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Redwood-City/923-Emerald-Hill-Rd-94061/home/1700223
Now this type of loan is not for the NINJAs (no 20% dp), nor for scardey cats who worry about interest rate increases and great depression #4 coming. (I guess those people are called renters.)
Purchase Price: 1,000,000
Loan Amount: 729,000
Down Payment: 271,000
3 year IO ARM from unionbank.com is 2.75% right now.
Int pmt = 1670 a month
prop tax = 1041 a month (slightly off im using LA county tax rate at 1.25%)
Principal Pmt = 0 (feel free to pay off early or make double pmts but not required)
Assuming you are in the tax bracket of 28% effective then after taxes your payment is:
1952 a month. (half the rent)
(yes we know there are repairs and the wife will want to remodel this is called home ownership, mostly people sell for more than they bought that is why they pour$ into it. Also it beats buying a bunch of old BMW's to pour $ into for most people.)
This is why you see a frenzy of buying- and it wont stop anytime soon. If rates spike in the future that does not change the fact that RIGHT NOW this is how the numbers add up. Who the hell knows what will happen in the future?! It comes down to this: Pick a payment 2k or 4k a month and live with the consequences. Obviously renting was the wrong choice from 09 to 2012 - and it looks to be a poor choice now if you have a large down payment and are not a genius stock picker.
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