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You should just assume the worst, send them to tatoo artists at the age of 8, give them beer, cigs and drugs at 10, get as much hard physical labor from them as you can and keep them chained to the wall when too disruptive.

That way, you never have to be disappointed, and if they turn out OK, they may support you with a motorcycle shop in your old age.

dublin hillz says

They are likely to enroll the child in the private school at the elementary or middle school level without soliciting the child's input and drill them to study hard

All I know is if you don't ask for much, you don't get much, especially as kids. If you solicit the child's input, you know what you will get and that is not much. As adults, I strive for work hard play hard, kids can work hard play hard as well.

dublin hillz says

However when the descendant reaches high school level they are likely to rebel against this hardline treatment and start failing classes as a form of protest and to punish the parents.

Or they become adults at the age of 15 instead of 24, when it is too late. work hard, play hard sounds better than having no standard no matter how you cut it. Young adult protests because they want to be defiant due to lack of regard to the parents, not having expectations.

dublin hillz says

Now the parents get desperate because they refuse to acknowledge the sunk costs
which can be over $100,000 and the downward spiral truly gets set in motion. If only they had sent their kids to public school which they were already paying for via their property taxes these issues wouldn't be present. But instead, it's
Game Over. Hasta la vista, baby...

This is just mumbling. As a parent of small kids, I have no idea what you are trying to say.

Unfortunately the world is more competitive than my generation and the boomers generation. What works 40 years ago is irrelevant to what will work in the future. The most educated/successful people have the highest expecations, you really think a parent that send their kids to a 20K a year private school have no idea what they are doing and someone the Walmart employee/parents figured it all out.

The problem with "Private Schools" are, it's where the rich folk deposit their evil spawn after they have been expelled from public school. In their "Good School" district.

SFace says

Unfortunately the world is more competitive than my generation and the
boomers generation. What works 40 years ago is irrelevant to what will work in
the future. The most educated/successful people have the highest expecations,
you really think a parent that send their kids to a 20K a year private school
have no idea what they are doing and someone the Walmart employee/parents
figured it all out.

I am not saying that every case of private school will turn into this doomsday scenario, but I have seen this happen and thus parents need to account for it in their risk vs reward scenario. Otherwise, it's like investing in stock market without acknowledging the possibility of a 2008 like event.

CaptainShuddup says

The problem with "Private Schools" are, it's where the rich folk deposit their evil spawn after they have been expelled from public school. In their "Good School" district.

Sometimes, they already live in a "good school" district, but to the parents, it's still not good enough...

Sounds like a lot pro teacher's union propaganda. Private school students test better and secure better jobs, among so many other things. And in my experience having gone to both private and public school, my friends from private school are doing MUCH better.

I'm no expert on private/public school. I see the advantages, but also I see the downside. I work with some snobby private school type parents that send their kids to private school even though they live in a good school district. One of them sent their kid to private 1-8 grade, then public high school and I remember the kid struggling early on and his dad couldn't believe he was having academic trouble at a knuckle dragging public school. When the time comes I will be sending my child to a good public school and paying for some private tutoring if needed.

lakermania says

Sounds like a lot pro teacher's union propaganda. Private school students test better and secure better jobs, among so many other things. And in my experience having gone to both private and public school, my friends from private school are doing MUCH better.

And what if just if the child implodes in high school and all of the parental financial investment blows up in smoke? Not to mention all of the additional resources that will be used as the parents solicit the help of "experts" in vain attempt to place the son/daugher back on the right path as they refuse to recognize the sunk costs as such?

dublin hillz says

And what if just if the child implodes in high school and all of the parental financial investment blows up in smoke?

1)Is there any scientific data supporting your claim of private schooling bringing higher risk of "implosion" in public high school?

2) What if the child gets hit by a bus and all of the parental financial investment blows up in smoke? Same? Different?

Straw Man says

1)Is there any scientific data supporting your claim of private schooling
bringing higher risk of "implosion" in public high school?

No and I don't believe there's a higher rate of implosion in private schools, but the big difference is that parents did not "invest" any tuition money when they went the public school route, which makes the demise easier to digest.

dublin hillz says

No and I don't believe there's a higher rate of implosion in private schools, but the big difference is that parents did not "invest" any tuition money when they went the public school route, which makes the demise easier to digest.

Can the message be distilled then to simple "don't spend on your kids any more money than barely necessary for their survival - it will make their demise easier to digest"? It certainly appears so.

Straw Man says

dublin hillz says

No and I don't believe there's a higher rate of implosion in private schools, but the big difference is that parents did not "invest" any tuition money when they went the public school route, which makes the demise easier to digest.

Can the message be distilled then to simple "don't spend on your kids any more money than barely necessary for their survival - it will make their demise easier to digest"? It certainly appears so.

No, that's very extreme. There's a difference between occasionally spoiling your child by buying them video game systems or enrolling them in clubs vs sending them to private school. We must remember, private schools have a substitute which is public schools that you are already paying for via your property taxes. Why would someone risk $100,000 for something that is readily available? $100,000 invested at a relatively modest 6% annual return will turn into $800,000 in 36 years. That's one way to "monetize" the potential implosion of the offspring.

I went through public school and have done extremely well retiring at 40. As long as the person has the ability and drive it makes no difference what school they go to.