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Pledge of Allegiance


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2013 Oct 14, 3:08pm   18,798 views  101 comments

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Little factoid I learned today.

The Pledge of Allegiance that I grew up with, was originally written by a Socialist! Guy name of Francis Bellamy, spearheaded the move to turn private schools into public. And in my parents day the salute to the flag was an outstretched arm.....

I've long been uncomfortable with this pledge, but I usually stand and try to avoid the stink eye from the Pledge Nazis.

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97   CDon   2013 Oct 16, 11:15pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

you have your data.. and you came to the same conclusion.


You dont need my answer on that...

But I do. You see Thomas, in a lot of ways the data is secondary. In a lot of ways this is a simply proxy on your capacity for intellectual honesty. In this particular case, there appears (to many of us) to be a potential flaw in your logic - so in an effort to flesh that out, we ask you questions.

Thusfar, you seem either unwilling to address it, or (perhaps) unable to understand it. Thusfar, you flit between periods of calm rational discussion (now), and anger induced flailing (earlier) -- but at no point have you ever come close to answering the most simple questions asked of you.

So in this test for your capacity for intellectual honesty, you are failing -- and badly I might add. The reason why I have been so patient with you was because I figured you would either (a) eventually answer the question, in which case we get a bit closer to resolving some facts about the performance of housing prices in the bay area or (b) do exactly what you are doing, thereby further exposing you as someone unworthy of engaging in the hopes of having a real and honest discussion about anything.

Anyway, ball is back in your court Thomas. Part 1 of 3 is out there. If you want to address it by answering either YES or NO we can proceed to part 2. If you don't, we can continue to dance around it, as we have for the past two days, that's fine with me too.

98   freak80   2013 Oct 17, 12:08am  

CDon says

But I don't really understand the reason behind employing an argument style that looks to any third party who reads it as gibberish. Why would you take a position that makes you look so, for lack of a better term, dumb?

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect

99   CDon   2013 Oct 17, 12:35pm  

freak80 says

CDon says



But I don't really understand the reason behind employing an argument style that looks to any third party who reads it as gibberish. Why would you take a position that makes you look so, for lack of a better term, dumb?


http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect

LOL. Someone else sent me the exact same link today!

100   CDon   2013 Oct 17, 12:40pm  

thomaswong.1986 says

in the end .. all they say is... Hey Look at Me .. its About Me..

You know, there may be a modicum of truth to that. But what I find more interesting here is your response. It was direct - it was to the point. Why cant you always be like that?

Tell you what, we are pissing on a lot of threads here (you are currently back on the "republicans in 10 years" thread) so im gonna let you go here in the hopes you answer what I ask you on that other one.

Either way, I think I have proven my point here about who you are and what you are all about. Of course, that being said, if you want to actually try and build back some semblance of an honest responsible individual, go back and answer the simplest of "yes" or "no" question I asked you above.

101   freak80   2013 Oct 20, 11:15pm  

The REAL Pledge of Allegiance should end like this:

One Nation, Under the Dollar, with Liberty and Justice for Those Who Can Afford to Buy it.

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