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Vicente says

I didn't pull the number out of my ass, they are reasonable guesses. Once upon a time I designed practical pistol courses, so I have more than a passing acquaintance of how long various events in pistol handling take.

Oh, I didn't realize you "designed practical pistol courses". Well then, I guess everything you say must be gospel. LOL. If I had a nickel for everyone on the internet who imagined himself to be an "expert" on a subject, I would be a millionaire.

Vicente says

Bullet wounds were on the side, so doesn't appear he even completed turning.

Well then that would be important evidence to consider. However, you didn't mention that before. You only argued that the shooting "took place too fast", and that is what I took issue with. So don't confuse the issue.

Vicente says

Which leaves little time for someone to understand what is going on and react reasonably.

The issue is not whether the suspect "had time to react reasonably"; the issue is whether the officer believed his life was in danger. As I said, it takes but a second to fire a gun. It does not require an extended amount of time or contemplation. So to expect police to always wait for some "reasonable action" from a suspect who is pointing a gun at them rather misses the point. They could be dead in the time it takes them to contemplate. If the shooting was unjustified, so be it. But the mere fact that it happened "fast" does not prove that.

It's interesting that you take ONE part of the USA Today article completely to heart - the part about the 10 seconds, even though you don't really know the sequence of events. Did he get out of the car and draw his gun at the same time? Does that really need to be two separately timed events? Was the second call made AS the shooting was taking place? Does it really take 3 seconds to fire seven shots? No, it could be done faster than that. I think you make a LOT of assumptions, based on taking this vague "timeline" to heart, but then completely ignore the sentence in the article which says,

Witnesses say at least one of the deputies took cover behind an open front door of the cruiser, and one yelled twice "drop the gun."

Notice that is says WITNESSES say "drop the gun" was yelled twice. Not the cops, the witnesses. So why is ONE part of the article gospel to you, yet another part seems to be beneath your notice?

Vicente says

13-year old kids are spastic to start with. Expecting one to understand what is going on with a shout from behind and absolutely no time to take it in... well that apparently ends in death when Sgt. Farva is on the other end of the gun.

It's a tragedy, but was it malicious? I think you're making a lot of assumptions that haven't been proven yet.