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sbh says

Answer me this obviously extreme question: who's intention poses less risk to you as an economic entity A. Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi ( big government liberals), or B. Phillip Morris, BP (remember the seven dwarves?, Deep Horizon).

Of course Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi. I haven't bought anything from Phillip Morris (or even Kraft Foods) or BM for over a decade. I have to endure Barney and Nacy's pillaging every single day!

sbh says

Only government is powerful enough to countervale capitalism. Left in "an environment of extreme freedom" you and CaptainShuddup would be begging in the streets. Answer me this obviously extreme question: who's intention poses less risk to you as an economic entity A. Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi ( big government liberals), or B. Phillip Morris, BP (remember the seven dwarves?, Deep Horizon). You don't get to quibble or mitigate. For now you take A or B. It's a shitty question, but I know what my poison would be.

Not sure where you make your assumptions from as you don't know the captain's or my job(s). In fact I moved here to enjoy more free market capitalism.

As to your question, it does not make much sense to compare big politicians to big corporations, but I buy mostly fresh (raw, non-processed) organic food from mostly local farmers, so Kraft Foods is out (although they had the best Mango pickles manufactured in India for years before discontinuing that item).

I hardly ever smoke and ride my bike mostly and am for stricter environmental regulations than quite a few libertarians as harming the environment cuts into other peoples freedom of pursuing a happy and healthy life.

By the way tobacco is not bad if you keep it raw and free of additives. Anatabine which is found in tobacco is a natural anti-inflammatory alkaloid effective against harsh auto-immune responses and brain degeneration (alzheimers etc.).

sbh says

Reality says

Of course Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi. I haven't bought anything from Phillip Morris (or even Kraft Foods) or BM for over a decade. I have to endure Barney and Nacy's pillaging every single day!

The natural law of cockroaches proves you needn't act by virtue of purchase to be coerced by capitalism. Besides you already have and continue to purchase from these entities. Go to your kitchen and open the cabinet. Say: "Are you now or have you ever been associated with a cockroach quantum event." All your goods have been coerced by cockroaches. You don't understand reality.

Big government actually often makes it easier for those entities to dominate the market. Big dairy subsidies go to a few big non-organic farms, raw dairy farmers are harassed by the FDA goons at every step and local organic farmers have to fight global spraying and engineered crop invasion and price fixing. Luckily there are still plenty of local organic farmers to choose from here in CA, but I am sure there are states where this is harder to come by.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/07/us/billionaires-received-us-farm-subsidies-report-finds.html?ref=business&_r=0

sbh says

Capitalism is amoral, sociopathic. It's Hannibal Lector.

We have to agree to disagree on this blanket statement. I'd sit down with Whole Foods, but not with Monsanto ;)

Screw Corporations and Government. What's wrong with an autonomous collective?