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Detroit Chapter 9 Bankrucpty


               
2013 Dec 8, 10:41pm   19,666 views  110 comments

by spydah_hh   follow (1)  

Not sure if this was already posted, I did a search in the forums and nothing came up. But hey like I've stated before, it was only a matter of time before pensions were cut. I wouldn't be surprised if other cities follow suit.

A federal judge declared Tuesday that Detroit is eligible for bankruptcy protection, giving a green light to the nation's largest municipal bankruptcy filing in history.

The contentious dispute pits the city's finance officials against its unions, creditors and retirees, ahead of what are expected to be steep cuts in pensions, as well as fire sales of treasured assets.

"The city no longer has the resources to provide its residents with basic police, fire and emergency services that its residents need," Judge Steven Rhodes said in a ruling that was over 140 pages long.

Carlos Osorio | AP
Detroit city workers and supporters protest outside the federal courthouse in Detroit while awaiting the bankruptcy decision, Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2013.
In the meantime, Detroit's emergency financial manager, Kevyn Orr, is expected to proceed toward the city's next major step: submitting a plan to restructure Detroit's approximately $18 billion in debt.

(Read more: Illinois to vote on pension proposal)
Immediately after the ruling, Detroit's largest public workers union, the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, said it will appeal.

"We're very disappointed. It's a very sad day for the people of Detroit and we've already filed a notice of appeal," AFSCME attorney Sharon Levine told CNBC. "We think that if there had been more time and actual good faith in negotiations, that there could have been potentially a solution that could have avoided this bankruptcy case and been less scary and devastating for the citizens of Detroit."

The judge's decision listed the city's long litany of financial woes, including the loss of manufacturing jobs and population in recent decades.

"As of April 2013, about 48 percent of the city's street lights were not working," Rhodes said. "In 2012 the average police response time was 30 minutes. In 2013, 58 minutes, and the national average is 11 minutes."
There were a number of quirks in the judge's ruling. Among other things, Rhodes said that the city did not negotiate in "good faith" with the unions to whom Detroit owes money—normally a prerequisite for allowing bankruptcy.

At the same time, he noted the obstinacy of the unions in the negotiations saying that the city could not realistically negotiate with a "stone wall.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101242616

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1   HEY YOU   @   2013 Dec 10, 1:52am  

What will happen to your pensions Red State Rep/Con/Teas?
You know the Right is against entitlements? Red State city govt. is a great place to start eliminating these Socialist Programs.

2   spydah_hh   @   2013 Dec 10, 8:42am  

HEY YOU says

What will happen to your pensions Red State Rep/Con/Teas?

You know the Right is against entitlements? Red State city govt. is a great place to start eliminating these Socialist Programs.

It won't just be the red states who will eventually eliminate these programs. I am sure at some point all states will because they're just to costly.

3   thomaswong.1986   @   2013 Dec 10, 9:51am  

HEY YOU says

You know the Right is against entitlements?

you put in 100 in taxes and get out 300 somehow...

if not a ponzi scheme sounds broken to me.

where did the 200 come from ?

Reminds me of the CA govt working getting something like $400K upfront
and over 100K in pension. Heck my vacation pay is capped at max like
everyone else in private industry... use it or lose it...
yet these govt workers dont cap their vacation accrual... and ring it up
based on final wage/salary rates.

4   spydah_hh   @   2013 Dec 10, 10:38am  

thomaswong.1986 says

HEY YOU says

You know the Right is against entitlements?

you put in 100 in taxes and get out 300 somehow...

if not a ponzi scheme sounds broken to me.

where did the 200 come from ?

Reminds me of the CA govt working getting something like $400K upfront

and over 100K in pension. Heck my vacation pay is capped at max like

everyone else in private industry... use it or lose it...

yet these govt workers dont cap their vacation accrual... and ring it up

based on final wage/salary rates.

Yep. Some people who work for CA would get an entire years or more worth of income just from accumulating vacation leave and retiring. It's ridiculous.

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