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How Germans remember Gestapo - (Old version of NSA)


               
2013 Dec 16, 7:17am   422 views  1 comment

by FortWayne   follow (1)  

http://www.zocalopublicsquare.org/2013/07/15/the-wounds-left-by-surveillance/

Pretty interesting article from a pastor who had an underground lab.

"Some IMs were blackmailed by the Stasi to work as informers, thus becoming victimized perpetrators. A colleague of mine was assigned to spy on me; after coming clean, he explained in a long conversation how much he himself had suffered from having to be a spy. He tried as hard as he could to avoid me so that he would not have to report on me. That doesn’t excuse the reality that he did pass on information that endangered me."

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1   thomaswong.1986   2013 Dec 16, 2:27pm  

FortWayne says

"Some IMs were blackmailed by the Stasi to work as informers, thus becoming victimized perpetrators.

Many are unaware that the Stasi infiltrated and destabilized much of the West German nation.
This even effected the democratic elected Willy Brandt govt. There is no point barring NSA projects that keep us safe from undemocratic groups and terrorists. If it works it works..

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/27/world/europe/27germany.html?_r=0

There is the sobering reminder of the Stasi infiltration of West German structures, but also the question of whether it went much deeper than has ever been uncovered. The Stasi’s reach in East Germany is well known; Chancellor Angela Merkel said just last week that the security service had tried to recruit her, though she had turned it down.

The most insidious question raised by the revelation is whether Mr. Kurras might have been acting not only as a spy, but also as an agent provocateur, trying to destabilize West Germany. As the newspaper Bild am Sonntag put it in a headline, referring to the powerful former leader of the dreaded East German security agency, Erich Mielke, “Did Mielke Give Him the Order to Shoot?”

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