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And the Rich can have it....after 30 years, we are leaving and cannot wait....

Many parts of the City smell bad. Not sure why that is. I would only go into town when I had a business appointment. Don't get me started on Bart, :-/

It is also so Overated! We have the money to enjoy ourselves, but the restaurants have become awful and overpriced. The attitude among the city is very arrogant and not friendly like it used to be. We watched it change over the years. It used to be this 'small town' inside a big city, with all the advantages yet very welcoming and very special; little Mom and Pop restaurants and stores that made it unique. One of our favorite stores in a very exclusive shopping district after over 30 years, had its rent doubled and will be taken over by another chain store...if this is what money can buy...you are better off being poor...

With each wave of money that washes over the Bay Area, the quality of life declines. Working people, artists, craftsmen, small businesses that don't make a huge profit margin, families are driven out to the suburbs or beyond.

retire59 says

after 30 years, we are leaving and cannot wait....

Where are you going?
This is my current dilemma. This same Affluenza has infected most of my favorite places, and the places not affected have few services.

At least in the old days, the poor side of the economic scale just fancied them selves a Bohemian, and enjoyed their shared brownstone in a Historic neighborhood.

We lost New Orleans the home and birth place of Jazz, without as much as a whimper from the Historical society. When the rebuilding was being provisioned, the historical needs of the city was trashed aside, while the developers blueprints filled the Judges bench.
Outlining the new developed gated communities where the poorest and most colorful characters, that were the heart of the City were shuffled off to out lying towns hundreds of miles away while their multi generational homes were razzed to make way for the new vision.

They should just round up all of the resistance, and place them in Candlestick Park, process them and bus them off to Acron Ohio.

It worked for N'awlins.

I'm gone

Call it Crazy says

smaulgld says

I'm gone

Gone where??

From SF

We fortunately can retire and moved to the mountains. We found a small town near Yosemite that we visited often and bought a nice home for a great price.....more community oriented.

But there are other places outside the Bay Area, but finding work is always difficult; that is why we had to stay.

The stinking rich and the stinking homeless. Guess they deserve each other.

umm maybe the shitty parts of the city like the tenderloin and bayview smell like shit and urine

but the richmond, seacliff, don't smell at all. in fact i would say they are some of the cleanest and most pleasant places in the entire bay area

Iwag says

umm maybe the shitty parts of the city like the tenderloin and bayview smell like shit and urine

but the richmond, seacliff, don't smell at all. in fact i would say they are some of the cleanest and most pleasant places in the entire bay area

Clement street in the Richmond is clean?

I was told that SF was just like Boston but the times I'd visited, it reminded me more of the bad neighborhoods in Boston but all over the place than just the blighted neighborhoods.

A better comparison would be SF to Philly, as much of Philly, aside from Rittenhouse Sq and Society Hill, are trash heaps.

Rin says

I was told that SF was just like Boston but the times I'd visited, it reminded me more of the bad neighborhoods in Boston but all over the place than just the blighted neighborhoods.

A better comparison would be SF to Philly, as much of Philly, aside from Rittenhouse Sq and Society Hill, are trash heaps.

well noted.. might be far more true...

Overall, if San Francisco is so Popular, a magnet for the rich and wealth...

it sure hasnt attracted many of the Rich from SoCal.. Santa Barabara, LA, San Diego..

Fact is when was the last time you saw a bunch of Hollywood Actors/Moguls live around
San Francisco in any prior decade.... Frankly unheard of .....

Its always been NYC and LA... no one ever talked about San Francisco as being a Mecca for the Rich and Famous !

When I saw the thread title, I was expecting this thread to be about all the gays in SF.

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thomaswong.1986 says

if San Francisco is so Popular

Ok, now that the SF = western seaboard Boston (a.k.a. Athens of America/University town/The Hub of the Universe/Sports City) has been deconstructed, can I ask the million dollar question.

Aside from those, who'd grown up in the Bay Area (and thus, know of no other place call home), I wonder why others are attracted to SF? I suspect a lot of it has to do with a mild winter, the faux notion of a Boston but without the snow storms.

My experiences in the S.V. region give me a type of dystopic view of the region. In essence, Silicon Valley is a suburban sprawl, very similar to South Jersey, that area between Philly & New Brunswick, an endless sea of shopping malls and office parks alongside highways. And just like South Jersey-ites, who look to escape to Manhattan for a weekend of culture, like seeing a Broadway show or visiting the Met, S.V.ers look to SF, as that escape from the grind of work on weekends. The difference is that SF is more like Philly, than either Boston or NYC, and thus is actually a 2nd rate final weekend destination, esp given the price one has to pay, to live & work in Silicon Valley.

With the above in mind, do we even need a Silicon Valley anymore? Can't any of those companies be located in Boulder CO, Nashville TN, Atlanta GA, Houston TX, etc, and in effect, perform similar tasks, since the actual customer base is not the Bay Area?

Rin says

My experiences in the S.V. region give me a type of dystopic view of the region. In essence, Silicon Valley is a suburban sprawl, very similar to South Jersey, that area between Philly & New Brunswick, an endless sea of shopping malls and office parks alongside highways. And just like South Jersey-ites, who look to escape to Manhattan for a weekend of culture, like seeing a Broadway show or visiting the Met, S.V.ers look to SF, as that escape from the grind of work on weekends. The difference is that SF is more like Philly, than either Boston or NYC, and thus is actually a 2nd rate final weekend destination, esp given the price one has to pay, to live & work in Silicon Valley.

I've lived here most of my adult life.

You are absolutely correct.