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136   Peter P   2014 Apr 14, 6:15am  

Why should we care if something is true? Life is like trading in the market. It is a stochastic game.

137   Heraclitusstudent   2014 Apr 14, 7:33am  

Peter P says

It is a stochastic game.

A probabilistic view is not an exemption from common sense.

That same 0.000001% chance assigned uniformly to unproven superstitious beliefs makes you 99.999999% atheist.

138   Dan8267   2014 Apr 14, 10:09am  

CaptainShuddup says

Yeah Liberals are ones to talk. They've been totally useless in American politics for about 3 decades now

You're entitled to your opinion no matter how bigoted and uninformed.

I can't remember the last time a liberal held an office of power. Maybe Jesse Ventura as governor, but nothing in the Senate comes to mind.

CaptainShuddup says

Dan8267 says

The point is to convince everyone else that the unicorn believer is an idiot who deserves no respect.

Then you've already lost every argument you put forth.

You're entitled to your speculation, but why should I believe your speculation is accurate when your facts are not?

Quigley says

Respected scientists believed the gorilla to be a mythical creature until someone dropped a dead one on their dissecting table.

Therefore, unicorns and the Loch Ness monster are probably real. The burden of proof is on the assertor.

We've already proved that every Big Foot sighting has been a hoax. If some species of ape is discovered and the person who finds it decides to call it Big Foot in order to garner more publicity, that doesn't make the myth of Big Foot any less bullshit.

Furthermore, it is a false dichotomy to say that a person is either close-minded to news possibilities or is naive enough to believe everything. The religious refused to be accept evidence. The skeptic demands evidence. I am a skeptic, and that's a good thing.

Quigley says

Until that day when an alien ship lands.

When that ship lands, I doubt the occupants will plead guilty to anally probing thousands of red necks.

Peter P says

One must strive to live a truth-agnostic life.

Now that should be the motto of Fox News: truth-agnostic.

One last thought... The peer-review process in science is brutal, but it is brutal for a reason. It is only by thoroughly attacking ideas that one can distinguish good ideas from bad ones. It is only by thoroughly attacking theories that one can have a high degree of confidence in them. Skepticism is good.

139   Tenpoundbass   2014 Apr 14, 12:20pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Zeus?

I've heard enough just about enough Zeus bashing out of you!

140   Dan8267   2014 Apr 15, 2:18pm  

sbh says

Dan8267 says

The burden of proof is on the assertor.

Now Dan, isn't it standard debate rules that the burden of proof is on the negative? It's been long time since high school, but I'm just sayin'......

Actually, the affirmative team has the burden of proof to affirm the year's resolution.

IMHO, the whole high school cross-ex debate thing was ruined by spreading a long time ago.

Strangely, there was an episode of The Simpsons in which Homer and Marge were in forensics and Homer did cross-ex debate. He mooned for rebuttal. That episode was brilliant because it so accurately portrayed all of forensics right down to the index cards the debaters used to use.

141   Dan8267   2014 Apr 15, 2:18pm  

Anybody know where I can pick up a copy of The History of Fish?

142   curious2   2014 Apr 15, 5:39pm  

Dan8267 says

Anybody know where I can pick up a copy of The History of Fish?

Google Books

Illustrations from the Royal Society

143   Tenpoundbass   2014 Apr 25, 1:51am  

Dan8267 says

Anybody know where I can pick up a copy of The History of Fish?

http://phish.net/faq/history.html

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