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More profound words from the Sowell man


               
2014 Apr 30, 12:53am   934 views  8 comments

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http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2014/04/30/demonizing-the-helpers-n1830521?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

It is not easy to demonize people who have spent hundreds of millions of dollars of their own money to help educate poor children. But some members of the education establishment are taking a shot at it. The Walton Family Foundation -- created by the people who created Walmart -- has given more than $300 million to charter schools, voucher programs and other educational enterprises concerned with the education of poor and minority students across the country. The Walton Family Foundation gave more than $58 million to the KIPP schools, which have had spectacular success in raising the test scores...

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1   MisdemeanorRebel   2014 Apr 30, 1:17am  

KIPP Schools achieve greatness by kicking out the disruptive black males 6-8th grade and not replacing them. If you get rid of the students least likely to succeed, the overall group will improve. Charter Schools can be rid of poorly performing or disruptive students entirely, but Public Schools cannot.

https://nonprofitquarterly.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=10896:a-charter-schools-performance-questioned-in-new-study&Itemid=986

They also receive substantially more money than Public Schools, and have longer hours.

They don't do more with less, they do more with more.

2   indigenous   2014 Apr 30, 1:50am  

thunderlips11 says

They don't do more with less, they do more with more.

They say: "One reason apparently" with no explanation

They say: "The pupils who drop out tend to be the lower performing students who return to the public schools but are not replaced in the KIPP schools."

This is the opposite of what Sowell implies, one of them is speaking with a forked tongue:

"Miron and his team examined the costs of KIPP and concluded that KIPP’s charter schools are much better funded than their traditional public school counterparts, to the tune of $6,500 per pupil in the same districts, $5,800 of which is from private donations and foundation grants"

Teacher unions raise the wages to much higher levels than their private sector counter parts. I wonder if the numbers your report shows include benefits?

With tenure making practically impossible to fire incompetent teachers, with teacher wages showing no correlation to test scores here in Calif, with rationing through more students per class room. I would think that it is incredulous to think that the public schools are in the same league as the private schools.

But the overarching point is that the teachers unions are covering their ass with anti private school propaganda.

3   control point   2014 Apr 30, 2:47am  

Anyone who thinks KIPP schools outperform public schools for any other reason than selection bias is a buffoon.

4   indigenous   2014 Apr 30, 2:51am  

control point says

Anyone who thinks KIPP schools outperform public schools for any other reason than selection bias is a buffoon.

What more proof could you want than that statement...

5   control point   2014 Apr 30, 2:59am  

indigenous says

What more proof could you want than that statement...

I'm using praxeology. I thought you'd have no issue following that.

6   indigenous   2014 Apr 30, 3:01am  

control point says

praxeology

Add that to the list of words you don't understand.

7   control point   2014 Apr 30, 3:03am  

indigenous says

Add that to the list of words you don't understand.

Right over your head, as suspected.

8   indigenous   2014 Apr 30, 3:18am  

control point says

Right over your head, as suspected.

Yea that's it allright

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