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Don't worry:

Either Jesus or the Next Steve Jobs will save the world through a spiritual or technological miracle.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

kill survivors with their bare hands and eat the flesh of humans with appreciation.

That's for health conscious cannibals.
An M134 could lead to lead poisoning.

Hey, this is a bunch of commie liberal propaganda. If I'm a self centered selfish SOB, why should I care about our trajectory.

All I care about is preserving what we have, maybe for the rest of my life.

A dumbed down peak prosperity. The reality is that peak whatever always gets changed with technology. Or the earth will evict us?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4

indigenous says

The reality is that peak whatever always gets changed with technology.

The expectation that there will always be a new technology to save us at the last moment is a recipe for catastrophic failure.

Heraclitusstudent says

The expectation that there will always be a new technology to save us at the last moment is a recipe for catastrophic failure.

Very true, this can not hold forever.

An interesting question is, which would be better ?

Finding an energy solution that allows for ever increasing population or

not ?

In which case population would have to scale down.

What if we had to live on a patchworks of "alternative" and nuclear, and if population actually stabilized at levels below current levels ?

One thing for certain, there will eventually be transitions to no growth. And that could be painful if we don't become more aware of it.

Or maybe my previous position is better.

marcus says

Hey, this is a bunch of commie liberal propaganda. If I'm a self centered selfish SOB, why should I care about our trajectory.

All I care about is preserving what we have, maybe for the rest of my life.

marcus says

What if we had to live on a patchworks of "alternative" and nuclear, and if population actually stabilized at levels below current levels ?

One thing for certain, there will eventually be transitions to no growth.

With enough self-reinforcement channels , 'no growth' basically means 'collapse'.

Flat is some kind of mysterious levitation that would be very hard to achieve in practice.

Heraclitusstudent says

The expectation that there will always be a new technology to save us at the last moment is a recipe for catastrophic failure.

The idea that wind farms or any other gov't drivel is going to fix it is absurd.

There is no peak oil:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/25/business/us-oil-production-keeps-rising-beyond-the-forecasts.html?_r=0

And the origin of hydrocarbon is abiogenic. More hydrocarbon is produced everyday inside the earth's crust due to the high pressure and heat; the energy source is radioactive element decay and the tidal energy of the earth-moon system.

The video once again shows ignorance regarding the term "reserve." Mineral reserves are almost always a few decades only because it cost a lot of money to discover/prospect for minerals; once the company has a few decades of reserves, the economic pressure to discover more drops.

Oh yeah? There is tomorrow. In fact I plan on going to the bar and having a few brewskies. Yay!

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

Say it out loud: CANNIBAL ANARCHY!

Yeah, I know,...it gives a whole new meaning to "eat me!"

34 minutes...can't you edit it down to 2??

Heraclitusstudent says

Looks like housing will be the last of our problems 20yrs from now.

Reality says

There is no peak oil:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/25/business/us-oil-production-keeps-rising-beyond-the-forecasts.html?_r=0

Shale oil: each well runs out quickly. More have to be drilled constantly. The best places have already been drilled. New places will lead to increasingly more expensive production. During this time massive existing fields are running out and must be replaced constantly.

Technology just pushes back a little bit the inevitable point where it will cost more energy to drill than it produces. This process can last to 2030, 2040 if you are optimistic. We will shift to gas, nuclear, renewables and back to coal for what they are worth.

We will not run out. We will just be unable to grow the energy supply enough to grow the economy, or avoid actual economic shrinkage. The things we take for granted now will slowly seem more and more difficult to afford.