patrick.net

fairly interesting.

I respect the speaker and here he is going on about Zionists like Bgamall does.

Is it possible that we really are grossly misinformed about this subject? and that Bgamall is not crazy after all?

The Zionist Elephant In The Room

http://www.rense.com/general86/zelephant.htm

http://youtu.be/J8kTa9UkpXo

indigenous says

The Israeli government claimed this was retaliation

"Retaliation" is a bullshit cop out used by both sides for the last 15 (ahem, 3000) years.

what about the Zionists committing atrocities on the Palestinians in 1948?

Are the Rothschilds acting on some religious dogma?

How does this fit in with the new world order?

Does most of the middle east tumult come from the 1948 extermination in Palestine?

bgamall4 says

Cheney and Rove use religion to get us involved in the Iraq War

Religion and war have been conflated in this country for a long time.

Hey, Paul Newman starred in Exodus, and that is a story that most sheeple believe. And Peter Lawford was in the movie, too. Doesn't get any better than that. There were no people in Palestine. And there was a people without a land, so......

indigenous says

what about the Zionists committing atrocities on the Palestinians in 1948?

Are the Rothschilds acting on some religious dogma?

How does this fit in with the new world order?

Does most of the middle east tumult come from the 1948 extermination in Palestine?

What about these questions?

bgamall4 says

If you see how fast the US has rearmed Israel in the current attack on Palestinians, you will see that our senate is totally controlled by the Israelis. I believe the sovereignty of our nation is on the line and I believe the Zionists control a lot of the CIA and maybe all of Homeland Security. I believe that the author may not be aware of the total control of the Zionists. This control is over media, as you see CNN, MSNBC and Fox defend Israel continually.

Even Chomsky doesn't really understand the power of the Zionists because he refuses to see 9/11 and the Sandy Hook Hoax and more as Zionist plots! I guarantee you that the Zionists are at the door. If a Muslim, Fareed Zakarias, can be a Zionist, then they are everywhere.

What a load of paranoid drivel.

And as for that religious gibberish in the previous post... just laugh out loud nonsense, but thanks for the entertainment first thing.

Why not post up your scriptural explanation for the age of the earth as a follow up belly laugh?

bgamall4 says

Just as the Zionists used the religious Jews so did the neocons like Cheney and Rove use religion to get us involved in the Iraq War even though these neocons attacked the USA on 9/11 and hid the fact.

You said in 6 posts what could have been said in 1. You are so inefficient.
Oh, and I still don't know what you said.

GARY: thou art batshit insane.

please read through this site

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

says

Read the above and weep, Bigsby, and Strategist. Your Old Testament (although you love the Talmud more than the Old Testament), prophesied Christ's triumph to the day. He was then as was also prophesied, given as a sacrifice for the sins of the elect. He gave his life for the sheep. The Pharisees were in unbelief because they were not determined to be sheep from before the foundation of the world.

I didn't weep. I laughed. I couldn't give a toss about the Talmud, the OT or the NT. It's all nonsense.

And I'm curious. How do you make the leap from 'seven weeks and sixty-two weeks' (whatever that means) to 173,880 days. And then you say that equals '69 weeks, times 7 times 360 days.' So what?

bgamall4 says

That 173,880 days is the exact number of days from the rebuilding of Jerusalem to Christ entering Jerusalem in triumph on the donkey as prophesied by the prophet centuries earlier.

Based on the gibberish you posted I take it? 7 weeks/62 weeks/360 days/blah-blah-blah. It's quite the mathematical achievement given that nobody knows when Jesus was born, so how do they know when he entered Jerusalem?

bgamall4 says

So, Bigsby, two prophets centuries earlier, Daniel and Zechariah, prophesied about Christ independently, and they support each other, both prophesies came true, and yet you still cannot believe. That shows you are likely not called unless God has mercy on you.

You do understand that the NT was written decades after the supposed events by multiple writers and that they had the OT tales to work from. It makes it rather easy to fit your fairy tale to previously made up stories, wouldn't you say?

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

You do understand that the NT was written decades after the supposed events by multiple writers and that they had the OT to work from.

You cannot explain Isaiah 53:5 and 53:10 from that logic. Those were witnessed, his death by thousands and his ressurrection by many. And the prophets were all on the same page, saying this messiah would come at the time he came. You are calling all the prophets of God liars.

Say it!

'The prophets of God are liars. Say it!'

I don't believe in God you muppet, so of course I believe they were lying. I suppose if I was being generous, then some of them might well have actually believed what they were saying, but that doesn't make it true. The world has seen tens of thousands of prophets. History has been fortunate for a few and discarded the rest. That is just historical chance.

bgamall4 says

You are saying that the prophets were liars all telling the same lie hundreds of years apart.

Many biblical stories are simply lifted from the tales of others. Prophets use that to make their predictions, and those that say the predictions have passed simply shape the facts to match the predictions. It's not exactly difficult post event, is it?

bgamall4 says

You are saying that the prophets were liars all telling the same lie hundreds of years apart.

Yes. Each idiot believed the idiot before him.

bgamall4 says

I am glad you stated it as that will be even worse for you than if you had kept your mouth shut. You cannot believe because you are probably a Zionist. I believe that you are directly involved in the New World Order. If you aren't you believe their testimony more than God's testimony through me.

Good grief, I've said I'm an atheist numerous times. How many times exactly do I have to repeat it? As for the rest of that gibberish - ha-fucking-ha. Please explain how I am directly involved in the NWO (something I believe is conspiracist nonsense), and how I'm a zionist (when I believe in the UN resolutions on the occupied territories).

bgamall4 says

But they prophesied specific things different than the others and they all came true. No one is smart enough to lie that way. Daniel did the days, and Zechariah did the donkey. Both came true on the same day.

WTF? If someone makes a prophecy thousands of years ago and then someone claims that those came true decades after they say it happened (though they don't claim to have witnessed it in most cases) and there is no actual proof, how on earth can you say that it happened? It's a complete nonsense. I'm sure followers of David Icke/L. Ron Hubbard etc. etc. make the same ridiculous claims. It's just idiocy of the first order.

bgamall4 says

If you aren't you believe their testimony more than God's testimony through me.

God's testimony through you? Did you really just type that? Seriously? So you are now claiming you are a prophet? Is that right? Bloody hell!

bgamall4 says

Strategist says

bgamall4 says

You are saying that the prophets were liars all telling the same lie hundreds of years apart.

Yes. Each idiot believed the idiot before him.

But they prophesied specific things different than the others and they all came true. No one is smart enough to lie that way. Daniel did the days, and Zechariah did the donkey. Both came true on the same day.

The future cannot be told. Period.
They were phonies full of shit. Nothing comes true except by coincidence.

bgamall4 says

There were witnesses to Christ on the donkey, and witnesses to his death, as he was pierced. There were witnesses to the day bringing Daniel's prophesy true. There were witnesses to the resurrection. There were witnesses to his birth in Bethlehem.

The future has been planned from the beginning. Nothing happens that has not been predetermined. Nothing. The future was told from before the foundation of the world.

People say there were witnesses. Show me the evidence. This is thousands of years ago, written after the event. People can't get the facts in order for things that happened a few days ago - as you are a prime example of. Even with clear as day evidence you deny such things as Sandy Hook and 9/11 and yet you take at face value things that were claimed to have happened over 2000 years ago and were only written about decades after the events. How stupid is that? I mean seriously, how stupid is that?

bgamall4 says

There was once a young man who was very mean to me in high school. His father was a successful actor in Hollywood but he could not handle the boy. He came to my home town where his mom lived. He was extremely hostile to me and physically hurtful. He got ran over by a train.

There was another fellow who was hurtful to me in my 50's on the job. He would hit me physically, and did so repeatedly. He was going home one day and misjudged the jump off a concrete fence shattering his vertebrae and forcing him to leave the job permanently.

Bloody hell. What are we supposed to glean from that? Are we supposed to think that you, Gary whackadoo Anderson, are some sort of chosen one of God? Is that what you are trying to claim? Good grief.

Mind, it does explain a lot.

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

People say there were witnesses. Show me the evidence.

Again, the prophets got the exact day prophesying two different things. One prophesied the day and the other prophesied the donkey, on the same day! Another prophet 200 years before, prophesied the death of Christ and how he was to die, through piercing. And it was witnessed by thousands.

No, they didn't. There's no actual proof of this apart from narrative written decades after and much of which was based on OT texts they could reference. You look at actual videos of events that took place in the recent past and come to an utterly different conclusion to every sane person on the planet. What do you think that says for your claims of unrecorded events over 2000 years ago?

bgamall4 says

Tacitus most certainly corroberated the death of Christ:

And Tacitus wrote about Jesus when exactly?

bgamall4 says

Bigsby says

bgamall4 says

Tacitus most certainly corroberated the death of Christ:

And Tacitus wrote about Jesus when exactly?

Late first century.

And what was my point?

bgamall4 says

I will answer this. He was a Roman historian which means he was a Roman Government historian. He got his accounts from the Roman government, not from stories.

How many decades after the supposed events? You confuse and create events that have enormous video evidence from a few years ago. Do you see the point? Seriously, do you?

bgamall4 says

And he was a Roman senator.

Well, that makes all the difference.