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Strategist says

I didn't know that, but I would definitely obey the cop. Would I still be categorized as an idiot?

http://patrick.net/?p=1247976

Henry Davis, 52, was arrested in Ferguson, Missouri, on September 20, 2009
Police had mistaken him for a man of the same name with an outstanding warrant
Davis claims police realized their mistake but still locked him up
He was allegedly beaten by a group of four officers
He was held for several days before being charged with four counts of property damage

Police in Ferguson had mistakenly arrested a man before the Michael Brown shooting and, after realizing, proceeded to beat him up in a holding cell and then charge him with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms, it has been claimed.

If you don't shoot an officer on sight, you are forfeiting your life.

Bellingham Bill says

As I say, the rich have a million ways to beat money out of poor people. The poors only have two in response, and one of those is a felony.

That is ridiculous. This country provides so many opportunities for poor kids to pull themselves out of the ghetto or poverty; so many just choose not to. I'm sick of people pushing wealth redistribution as the answer to everything...I came from a dirt poor family and worked my ass off in school, got a scholarship, put myself through college, and worked my way up to senior management through my own blood, sweat and tears. I went to school with inner city kids in the LA Unified School District, and they had every opportunity to study and work hard that I had; in fact, non-whites had more of an advantage than I did due to affirmative action. Giving them money is NOT the answer...all that does is enable weakness. We need to change the welfare culture so that more people have a fire lit under their ass to wholly take care of themselves.

Does the 2nd Amendment apply to ANYONE in Massachusetts? (or blacks in MA for that matter?)... NOPE...

I laughed at this thread initially, because unless you know the Chief of Police of your MA town/city, more often than not, you are not going to be afforded your 2nd amendment rights in Massachusetts.

That's right Martha. You want a gun to keep in your house to defend your property/family/home? You need to go to your town's Chief of Police and BEG. If he doesn't like you, doesn't know you, (pick any excuse), he can pretty much deny your 2nd amendment right to buy/keep a gun. And that's that..... And you can thank a liberal for this denial of our 2nd amendment in Massachusetts.

AverageBear says

Does the 2nd Amendment apply to ANYONE in Massachusetts? (or blacks in MA for that matter?)... NOPE...

I laughed at this thread initially, because unless you know the Chief of Police of your MA town/city, more often than not, you are not going to be afforded your 2nd amendment rights in Massachusetts.

That's right Martha. You want a gun to keep in your house to defend your property/family/home? You need to go to your town's Chief of Police and BEG. If he doesn't like you, doesn't know you, (pick any excuse), he can pretty much deny your 2nd amendment right to buy/keep a gun. And that's that..... And you can thank a liberal for this denial of our 2nd amendment in Massachusetts.

After Heller and McDonald? It can't be.

Straw Man says

After Heller and McDonald? It can't be.

Yeah I kind of doubt that too. From what I understand, in MA, the police chief can choose to deny you a license to buy firearms if you have a mental or criminal history background, but barring that you will be approved. And their governor, a few days ago, signed into law a bill that says a police chief cannot deny you a concealed weapons permit for no reason. He/she must indicate the reason you are being denied a CCW in writing, and you now have the ability to appeal a denial.

lakermania says

Straw Man says

After Heller and McDonald? It can't be.

Yeah I kind of doubt that too. From what I understand, in MA, the police chief can choose to deny you a license to buy firearms if you have a mental or criminal history background, but barring that you will be approved. And their governor, a few days ago, signed into law a bill that says a police chief cannot deny you a concealed weapons permit for no reason. He/she must indicate the reason you are being denied a CCW in writing, and you now have the ability to appeal a denial.

Yeah, I'll believe it when I see it. If MA is so "gun friendly", why all the lawsuits?

AverageBear says

If MA is so "gun friendly", why all the lawsuits?

To beat them into compliance.

Call it Crazy says

lakermania says

From what I understand, in MA, the police chief can choose to deny you a license to buy firearms if you have a mental or criminal history background, but barring that you will be approved.

It's the same way in NJ. The police chief holds all the cards on approval, so we have to buy him lots of doughnuts to sweeten him up!

Won't last long, if not already ended. Everybody will move to "shall-issue" or will be beaten into pulp by courts.