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indigenous
2014 Oct 9, 2:20am
A great example of government hypocrisy.
It is the only kind that has legs the rest is quickly exposed
turtledove
2014 Oct 9, 2:43am
even though she had multiple valid, non-faked government-issued IDs with her name, picture, address, and stating she was legal age, that somehow magically the porn industry should have known her true age.
There's definitely a legal blind spot in this area. I just don't understand how the reasonable person standard got so messed up with this. Would a reasonable person be expected to look into her soul and know her true age? Clearly, if a ten year old were sporting an ID that says she's 21, only a moron wouldn't see through that. But if a 16 year old girl had an ID that said she was 18 or 21, why would a reasonable person question it? Even if I wanted to question it, how would I go about verifying her age (beyond checking her erroneous ID)? What exactly is a reasonable person expected to do?
I can't speak for all parents, but I can tell you that I would never act on this law as long as I consider the other person to be in my daughter's peer group. So, if she were 16-17 and dating a 18-19 year old, I think it's absurd to make problems because of his age. Mentally, the ages are well matched, and both parties are more than capable of judging the appropriateness of their actions. However, it is my opinion that the age spread among teenagers should really be limited to two to three years.... and there are no dates until after I get to know the guy (a couple of family dinners, first, for example). I'm not going to make my daughter break up with her boyfriend because he turned 18. Unfortunately, with the laws the way they currently are, I cannot say the same for my son. Not because I think he would be doing anything wrong, but I would do everything in my power to discourage him from taking that risk as the legal deck seems to be stacked against him.
MisdemeanorRebel
2014 Oct 9, 2:45am
Not because I think he would be doing anything wrong, but I would do everything in my power to discourage him from taking that risk as the legal deck seems to be stacked against him.
Unfortunately, girls 14, 15, 16 will put their hooks in him when he is 17,18. Will he be flattered? Will the hormones override the brain in a teenage boy? The answer I think is 99% of the time.
I have a son too, it's a long way off for me to worry about, but we need to stop criminalizing normal teenage boy fallibilities, and stop pretending that teenage gals have no sex drive and no manipulation skills.
Dan8267
2014 Oct 9, 3:24am
and stop pretending that teenage gals have no sex drive and no manipulation skills.
justme
2014 Oct 9, 3:39am
It's more common for men to go after teenage girls than for women to go after teenage boys,
I'm not so sure this is true anymore, and perhaps it never was true. It was just swept under the rug. Seeing the of flood reports of female schoolteachers that have been found to sexually assault their underage and even pre-teen students I can't help but think that the reported cases are just the tip of an iceberg.
justme
2014 Oct 9, 3:41am
If elected dictator, I will pardon these two teachers.
What kind of wuss dictator are you? Real dictators don't get elected.
More jailbirds for you can be found here
MisdemeanorRebel
2014 Oct 9, 3:47am
Also, we need to cut the peer pressure blame catch-all.
"I only have sex because my friends do."
"I only eat chocolate because my friends do."
"I only smoke weed because my friends do"
etc.
If this was true, nobody would jack/jill off and then smoke a bowl and eat some cookies when nobody else was around.
Dan8267
2014 Oct 9, 4:00am
It's more common for men to go after teenage girls than for women to go after teenage boys,
I'm not so sure this is true anymore, and perhaps it never was true. It was just swept under the rug. Seeing the of flood reports of female schoolteachers that have been found to sexually assault their underage and even pre-teen students I can't help but think that the reported cases are just the tip of an iceberg.
Possibly, but I suspect the media is more interest in the case where hot women are chasing teenage boys because it's more sensational.
I don't have stats since, well this is exactly the kind of thing that it's impossible to get reliable statistics on, but from an evolutionary psychology perspective, it just makes more sense that there are more men chasing younger women than vice-versa.
The value of a female mate is determined almost entirely by her future reproductive potential, whereas the value of a male mate is largely determined by his current and future financial and social prospects, and you basically have to already be an adult to demonstrate financial and social potential.
Dan8267
2014 Oct 9, 4:02am
What kind of wuss dictator are you? Real dictators don't get elected.
Tell that to Hitler.
justme
2014 Oct 9, 4:05am
What kind of wuss dictator are you? Real dictators don't get elected.
Tell that to Hitler.
If you like your election, you can keep your election.
justme
2014 Oct 9, 4:10am
Possibly, but I suspect the media is more interest in the case where hot women are chasing teenage boys because it's more sensational.
Yes, POSSIBLY. But have not scare stories of male child molesters always been good press and good at attracting TV viewers? Even completely false stories and moral panics about satanic male child molesters roaming the halls of our pre-schools in the 1980s. I can agree that the cases were the teacher is semi-hot get more airplay than when she is beyond plain, the latter being the case for Diane Brimble.
If elected dictator, I will pardon these two teachers.
Followed by a private consult behind closed doors with the two of them.
Ceffer
2014 Oct 10, 4:49am
Why do these mature and considered discussion threads always have to turn into sordid porn fantasies?
Because they CAN, Ha, Ha, Ha!
tatupu70
2014 Oct 10, 4:58am
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Was it a serial three-way with the fellow taking turns fucking the teachers? FAIL!
Or a real life three-way with one teacher riding his dick and making out with the other teacher sitting on his face? PASS!
Sounds like PASS.
"At the apartment, the boy told police, he had sex with both women. While Respess was having intercourse with him, Dufresne "began intimately kissing (Respess) in an attempt to arouse all parties involved, all who were complete(ly) disrobed."
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Two Destrehan High School teachers have been arrested after allegedly having a threesome with a student who was 16 at the time.
English teacher Shelley Dufresne, 33, of 805 Country Cottage Blvd. in Montz, was charged with carnal knowledge of a juvenile and contributing to the delinquency of a juvenile. Fellow English teacher Rachel Respess, 23, of Kenner, faces the same charges.
Dufresne is married with three children and has been teaching at DHS for 10 years. Respess graduated from Destrehan in 2008 and has been teaching at the school for two years.
The student is 17 years old now, but was 16 at the time the alleged crime took place. The student bragged to classmates about having sex with two teachers, which resulted in a St. Charles Parish Sheriff’s Office investigation at Destrehan on Friday, Sept. 26.
According to the Sheriff’s Office, the first crime took place in the early part of September in Montz.
A second incident allegedly took place in Kenner after the Destrehan versus Helen Cox football game on Friday, Sept. 12. Kenner Police Chief Michael Glaser said both teachers are accused of having sex with the student in Respess' home on West Esplanade Avenue that night.
He said that Respess was the student's English teacher last year, while Dufresne taught the student English this year.
St. Charles Parish School Board member Al Suffrin said the situation is troubling.
“It gives the district a black eye. It is obviously something we don’t like to see happen because it is a distraction. It gets in the way of what our core business is.,†he said.
Suffrin said the school district has overcome such situations before, but it makes the job of all educators more difficult when such issues arise.
“Generally speaking we have enough challenges as it is. We didn’t need something like this to happen to add to the challenges we already have. It is a difficult enough task,†he said. “When something like this happens it is more than just a bump in road. We work so hard to make strides and progress and something like this is a setback.
“We’ve had other challenges we’ve faced and overcome.â€
Dufresne was first arrested for carnal knowledge of a juvenile on Tuesday in St. Charles Parish. She was released after posting bond, but was rebooked with additional charges on Wednesday in Kenner.
Both teachers have been suspended without pay, according to Stevie Crovetto, public information director for St. Charles Parish Public Schools.
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