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A.I. alarmism more harmful than AGW alarmism


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2014 Dec 2, 3:51am   28,067 views  103 comments

by Peter P   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

In either case, it is because Modernism is scared. In reality, it is reductionism fighting against the unknown and any possible emergence.

Science, as it stands today, is pathetic.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/stephen-hawking-artificial-intelligence-could-150024478.html

Stephen Hawking seems to be afraid. Alas, who cares for a theory of everything?

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97   Heraclitusstudent   2014 Dec 3, 7:54am  

Peter P says

What kind of AI are you building?

One based on programming structures, like other programs.

98   Rin   2014 Dec 3, 11:17am  

Peter P says

This is why we must live at the frontier of its development. He who controls AI controls the human destiny.

Not even sure if the frontier is needed. The current development of personal digital assistants, already have a lot of implementation arcs where in effect, an organization can add more work while also laying ppl off. In the past, that strategy usually failed because customers became aware that their support efforts went downhill, as well as the general quality of work. Thus, a loss of let's say 25% of a firm's staff, usually resulted in a loss of output. In only a few short years, it'll be more like a 25% layoff will not only add to the bottom line but also increased output for those who're left behind. Add a few more product generation cycles on this and soon, we'll have a very limited white collar workspace.

99   Peter P   2014 Dec 3, 12:14pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Peter P says

What kind of AI are you building?

One based on programming structures, like other programs.

IMO, there are several types (stages) of Artificial Intelligence:

1. Programs (written in a programming language), you give the machine exact instructions to perform a task

2. Supervised Machine Learning, you teach a machine what things are

3. Unsupervised Machine Learning, the machine teaches itself with or without your guidance

Obviously, (3) is the most interesting because machines can move beyond its programming. This is where true emergence can occur.

Which one are you talking about?

100   Peter P   2014 Dec 3, 12:22pm  

There are other interesting views on intelligence. Some equate it with entropy maximization. Perhaps the universal will-to-power is all about maximizing future possibilities?

So exciting! :-)

This video is intriguing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL0Xq0FFQZ4

101   Peter P   2014 Dec 3, 12:35pm  

Rin says

Add a few more product generation cycles on this and soon, we'll have a very limited white collar workspace.

Pretty much jobs will no longer exist. Soon enough, machines can do practically anything a human can do, only better and cheaper. Moreover, self-replicating robotic law enforcement can maintain peace in ANY environment, effectively and without moral confusion.

It is going to be interesting. :-)

102   Heraclitusstudent   2014 Dec 3, 3:28pm  

Peter P says

Obviously, (3) is the most interesting because machines can move beyond its programming. This is where true emergence can occur.

Which one are you talking about?

(2) and (3) are always included in (1). They are programs like any other.
(2) and (3) are both necessary for intelligence. They just play different roles.

103   Peter P   2014 Dec 3, 3:43pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Peter P says

Obviously, (3) is the most interesting because machines can move beyond its programming. This is where true emergence can occur.

Which one are you talking about?

(2) and (3) are always included in (1). They are programs like any other.

(2) and (3) are both necessary for intelligence. They just play different roles.

Yes, they build on one another. (2) and (3) are programs but not in the same sense as (1). You as the programmer further removed from the problem (as its solver) in (2) and (3) then in (1).

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