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Russia Furious After Poland Removes Soviet War Memorial


               
2015 Jul 4, 6:27pm   4,223 views  13 comments

by zzyzzx   follow (9)  

http://www.newsweek.com/russia-furious-after-poland-removes-soviet-war-memorial-350185

MOSCOW/WARSAW (Reuters) - Russia said on Saturday it was outraged by Poland's destruction of a Soviet war monument, warning Warsaw of the "most negative consequences" after what it said was a flagrant violation of an agreement between the two countries on protecting memorial sites.

Poland has been one of the most vocal critics of Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimea peninsula in 2014. Russia and Poland share a history of conflicts and the disagreement over war memorials is likely to add to tensions.

"Warsaw must finally understand that the 'war of monuments' unleashed in Poland may have the most negative consequences, for which the responsibility lies squarely with its initiators," the Russian foreign ministry said in a statement.

Authorities in the western Polish town of Nowa Sol took down the brotherhood-in-arms of Polish and Red Army soldiers memorial at the end of June, reducing it to a pile of rubble.

"The monument was large (dozen tonnes of concrete), ugly, always dirty with rust leaking out of the abyss of its emptiness, like blood or tears," Wadim Tyszkiewicz, Nowa Sol's mayor said on his Facebook profile earlier this week.

"FLAGRANT VIOLATION"

The Russian ministry described the Polish action as an "unfriendly move" and a "direct and flagrant" violation of a 1994 agreement between Poland and the Russian Federation on memorial sites.

"One gets an impression that the mockery of our memorial sites in Poland has been built into the state policy," the Russian ministry said.

Poland's foreign ministry spokesman Marcin Wojciechowski told Reuters the move in Nowa Sol did not violate the agreement, which Poland believes only concerns cemeteries. Russia says it concerns all war memorials.

"Issues regarding monuments are within the competencies of relevant local authorities," Wojciechowski said.

A monument in Warsaw's Skaryszewski park commemorating Soviet soldiers who died in 1944 is regularly sprayed over with paint, despite close monitoring from the Warsaw police.

Poland was under Soviet occupation for over four decades following the Second World War. The last Russian soldiers left in 1993, 54 years after the first Soviet troops attacked the country in 1939, two weeks after the invasion launched by Nazi Germany.

Many Poles, now national heroes praised for their fight for independence, were persecuted by Soviet authorities after the war. Many were executed.

"Times have changed. We have grown up. The Russians are long gone," Nowa Sol's mayor said. "There is no extraordinary ideology here."

#crime

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1   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Jul 4, 6:42pm  

Pretty shitty.
zzyzzx says

Poland was under Soviet occupation for over four decades following the Second World War. The last Russian soldiers left in 1993, 54 years after the first Soviet troops attacked the country in 1939, two weeks after the invasion launched by Nazi Germany.

Which was 19 years after Poland attacked and annexed parts of Russia in 1920 in a revanchist attempt to recreate the Grand Duchy.

The last pogram in Europe was 1946, when Polish "Home Army" soldiers and locals killed and wounded dozens outside a Refugee Center based on a "Blood Libel" claim.

2   zzyzzx   2015 Jul 4, 6:45pm  

Russia Furious After Poland Removes Soviet War Memorial

4   Y   2015 Jul 4, 7:08pm  

polish based american warthogs will repel any russian attempt at saving face.
poland is with the good guys...for good now.

5   HEY YOU   2015 Jul 4, 7:33pm  

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6   Ceffer   2015 Jul 4, 10:19pm  

Poland needs to put Confederate flags all over every torn down memorial. If you are going to get an ass whipping, you may as well look like an ass whipping.

7   RWSGFY   2015 Jul 9, 4:44pm  

Ceffer says

If you are going to get an ass whipping, you may as well look like an ass whipping.

What ass whipping? The head of the administration of the Russian President Sergey Ivanov publicly peed himself at a thought of confrontation with NATO:

"We have a very different military power. But most importantly: why should we do that? What, you seriously think we want to start a war with NATO? Are we suicidal?"

8   Y   2015 Jul 9, 5:03pm  

It's not about war now. It's about "internal unrest and the majority desire to be annexed by the non-invading country.
the non-invading country that can create the most internal unrest and that has the most soldiers who are willing, while on vacation, to infiltrate the victim and cause hell will win.

9   RWSGFY   2015 Jul 9, 6:11pm  

SoftShell says

It's not about war now. It's about "internal unrest and the majority desire to be annexed by the non-invading country.

the non-invading country that can create the most internal unrest and that has the most soldiers who are willing, while on vacation, to infiltrate the victim and cause hell will win.

This shit works best when nobody is expecting something like this to happen (and you have shitload of troops already pre-positioned inside the country you're invading). The second attempt works much much less smoothly and by the time you're trying to pull off the third your counterpart is on the joke and will squish the fake uprising right away.

10   Strategist   2015 Jul 9, 9:15pm  

zzyzzx says

Russia Furious After Poland Removes Soviet War Memorial

Will someone please remind Putin, Russia no longer owns Poland.

11   zzyzzx   2015 Jul 10, 6:44am  

I'm still wondering why these monuments weren't taken down in 1991!

12   Y   2015 Jul 10, 7:34am  

so the baltics would be classified as 'the 2nd attempt' as the georgia mess seems like eons ago...
time to put nato hotels on mediterranean and baltic avenues...

Straw Man says

This shit works best when nobody is expecting something like this to happen (and you have shitload of troops already pre-positioned inside the country you're invading). The second attempt works much much less smoothly and by the time you're trying to pull off the third your counterpart is on the joke and will squish the fake uprising right away.

13   RWSGFY   2015 Jul 13, 2:30pm  

SoftShell says

so the baltics would be classified as 'the 2nd attempt' as the georgia mess seems like eons ago...

Nope, the second attempt is playing out in Donbass as we speak (and not doing very good). The first attempt was Crimea, of course, at there it worked very well.

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