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DieBankOfAmericaPhukkingDie says

If he were alive today, he would have been on the GOP debate last night being accused by half the candidates of being a flower child.

They might have even accused him of being an immense hirsute lesbian.

Nahh, he was just a misunderstood kid.

Hey slick, your link broken

Waitup says

Was Hitler really evil?

If Hitler were an American, we'd call him a hero. The only reason he's condemned by history is that he lost the war. Had he won, he'd be "a great leader".

So he committed genocide. Our history is full of founding fathers, generals, and presidents who did the same. Ever hear of Andrew Jackson? He's on the $20 bill.

How about that genocidal maniac, George Washington. We named our capital after him and countless schools, roads, bridges, monuments, etc.

“The immediate objectives are the total destruction and devastation of their settlements and the capture of as many prisoners of every age and sex as possible. It will be essential to ruin their crops in the ground and prevent their planting more.”

Orders of George Washington to General John Sullivan, May 31, 1779

That's right, this despot ordered the slaughter of men, women, and children regardless of age (read including infants) for the sole purpose of wiping out a race of people. That's genocide no different than Hitler's final solution. And like Hitler, Washington violated a treaty, while committing his crimes against humanity. The Iroquois were granted sovereignty over their remaining lands for helping the American colonies defeat the French in the French and Indian War, hence the name of the war.

Even in the 20th century, the America government supported wholesale genocide, rape, and murder in South America, Africa, and the Middle East. There is nothing that Hitler or the Nazis have done that America hasn't done longer, bigger, and better. It's not the colors of the flag you wave that matters. It's the accountability of government officials for their crimes that matters.

How much any of you wanna bet that Dan has used the Natzi card to shame people when it was Liberally hip to call Conservatives Hitler.
Now he want's Hitler on a $20 dollar bill. Classic Dan.

Dan8267 says

The only reason he's condemned by history is that he lost the war. Had he won, he'd be "a great leader".

True dat. Mohammed was worse than Hitler in some ways. Documented in Islamic sources as a pedophile, rapist, thief, brutal suppressor of all criticism. Murdered his prisoners after they surrendered.

But Mohammed won, so these days he's the untouchable prophet for Muslims, a "role model for all humanity"...

yes he was

CaptainShuddup says

How much any of you wanna bet that Dan has used the Natzi card to shame people when it was Liberally hip to call Conservatives Hitler.

Now he want's Hitler on a $20 dollar bill. Classic Dan.

When did I say that? Was it before or after you said you wanted to rape 4-year-old boys?

Troll says

But Mohammed won, so these days he's the untouchable prophet for Muslims, a "role model for all humanity"...

The same is true for just about everyone revered by society. I point out American examples because they are most relevant to our lives, but it's true throughout all history and all cultures.

FortWayne says

yes he was

Way to take a controversial stand.

Dan8267 says

Troll says

But Mohammed won, so these days he's the untouchable prophet for Muslims, a "role model for all humanity"...

The same is true for just about everyone revered by society. I point out American examples because they are most relevant to our lives, but it's true throughout all history and all cultures.

If it's normal it's not evil. This what humans do.
It's only evil in this day and age. Poor Hitler just missed the deadline. He should have been born 50 years earlier, or in Saudi Arabia.

Strategist says

If it's normal it's not evil.

I'd strongly disagree with that.

Defending the inherent evil of the status quo is conservativism in a nutshell.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

If it's normal it's not evil.

I'd strongly disagree with that.

It's not evil to the society that practices it. e.g.. witch burning, abortion, terrorism.

Strategist says

It's not evil to the society that practices it. e.g.. witch burning, abortion, terrorism.

Like empire? Nobody does empire better than the US.

indigenous says

Strategist says

It's not evil to the society that practices it. e.g.. witch burning, abortion, terrorism.

Like empire? Nobody does empire better than the US.

"One man's meat, is another man's poison"
Many see America as an imperialistic country, and many see our actions as defensive in nature.

Strategist says

Many see America as an imperialistic country, and many see our actions as defensive in nature.

So you would describe are involvement in Iraq as defensive? Where 250k non combatants were killed, where sanctions killed 500,000 Iraqi babies, because of WMDs? This started and continuous in Afghanistan 14 years ago. ISIS is a product of Obama funding guerrillas against Assad as he could not get approval to do this directly.

You describe this as defensive?

Or the domino effect in Vietnam and LBJ's canard based on the Gulf of Tonkin, you would describe that as defensive?