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Manosphere, Mens Rights, Misandry, and The Red Pill


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2015 Aug 19, 4:45pm   61,103 views  111 comments

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I was struck by some of the attitudes toward women on this site, as it's nothing like anything I've encountered in real life. After doing a little research, I've learned the following.

There is a small but growing segment of the population that feels that men get a raw deal in society, and that women get away with all sorts of abuses of men. Some who want to debate this directly on a societal level fall into the Mens Rights Activists. Others, try to study women, and become better at manipulating them for sex. These are the Red Pillers. Collectively, these groups spend time on sites in the Manosphere. These guys (and a few girls) love using the word misandry.

There's a pretty fair appraisal of the red pill reddit here:
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-red-pill-reddit-2013-8

Here is a funny youtube primer on the Manosphere.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/Ew8KPNeEds8

There is a wiki glossary of terms often used on reddits r/theredpill
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Manosphere_glossary
The wiki one is much more complete than the reddit glossary, which is here
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/17xmry/acronym_and_glossary_thread/

If you want to see the red pill in action, go straight to the source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/

My take on all of this is that most of the red pillers are guys who got emotionally scarred through bad relationships with women. Some were stuck in the 'friendzone,' others were dumped, and some were 'raped' in divorce court. Many of these guys never understood women. A lot of these red pillers thought that they could get a woman to like them by buying them things or being super nice to them. That will never work. Women want to be entertained, laugh, feel good, learn new things, etc. If you can provide that, filter out crazy people, and find someone who shares common interests and beliefs, you can have good reciprocal relationships with women.

To get relief from the emotional pain, these guys have swallowed The Red Pill. The Red Pill gives them two things. First, it provides an excuse for their relationship failures. By showing how it is women's nature that sets nice guys up to finish last, they are relieved from blame. Second, it provides a path forward. After swallowing the Red Pill, going for a satisfying marriage is too risky, so they don't have to take any emotional risks going forward. Also, The Red Pill sites have hookup manual. You just have to follow a few easy steps like hitting the gym, dressing well, and using some game theory when hitting on women. If you do this, you can convince much more women to have sex with you.

It is nice that these guys have some place to go on the internet to get relief. But, it is sad that they have to give up the idea of a productive relationship and make up this intricate story to feel whole. However, much of the game theory on picking up women, such as putting a girl down right before hitting on them works best on emotionally challenged women. So, they are self-selecting women with emotional problems. Plus, these guys are trying hard to become pick up artists, and have demonstrated little understanding on the subject in previous life experience. They are working off of an internet manual. So, it seems like a formula for date rape and false accusations of date rape. This of course is the Red Piller's worst nightmare.

How does this apply to Patrick.net? The RedPillers love to claim that they are not misogynists - that they are just seeking the truth. Further, they suggest that swallowing the red pill is the only way to truly be happy in relationships. Some of them also suggest that you should never admit when you are wrong. Deflection is the best option, because that is all anyone else would do anyway. This seems about right.

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105   lostand confused   2015 Aug 21, 4:48am  

YesYNot says

I've tried getting people to lay off of the anecdotal crap, but they like to do it. I don't know if it's usually you or not, which is why I didn't call you out on it. For shit's and giggles, I figured I'd try to balance out the steaming pile of crap with one on the other side of the issue. In case there are people reading along who are easily swayed emotional button pushers, at least they will have a chance to have their other button pushed

Typical pseudo intellectual crap. All high and mighty, oh I care about the great unwashed masses, oh you can't talk about those issues-even if they are in public record-blah, blah , blah. Basically reality is starting to bite, so turn into some defense mechanism to try and not accept it-red pill, blue pill, anecdotal crap, idjits blah, blah, blah. Accept reality-much easier
LOL

You conveniently dance around the topic that it is the law that allows these gold diggers their treasure. A whore who slept with 100 men and married to a guy who worked his ass off, did not cook, clean, contribute anything gets half of the fortune of the time they were together and alimony on top-even though she slept with a different dude every week-that is the no-fault divorce laws and treating women as children laws. They are equals-no alimony, split-go on your way and make your own destiny.

106   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Aug 21, 9:28am  

YesYNot says

Here's some reading to balance out posts by the idiots who post anecdotal stories hoping to sway people.

Both your examples are from the minority of rape claims, against total strangers; whereas the majority of claims are pointed at people known to the alleged victim.

107   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Aug 21, 9:29am  

YesYNot says

He is saying that the conclusion you should draw is that we just can't tell, because the research is shoddy. This is contradictory to the conclusion that you came up with.

Since we just can't tell, and our system should be biased more against false positives than negatives, we should assume the higher numbers of false rape allegations.

108   lostand confused   2015 Aug 21, 4:18pm  

YesYNot says

It's a parody of lost and confused, and other dunces that spend their time rounding up stories of a false rape accusations and / or illegal immigrants murdering or raping someone.

So false rape accusations and illegals murdering people are a joke to you. You can't comprehend something, so you are trying to turn it into some sort of starnge explanation-red pill, the matrix, a parody. That you devolve into insults-marcus you must be-that is his ammo, when he can't come up with a counter .

109   lostand confused   2015 Aug 21, 6:46pm  

YesYNot says

No. Posting anecdotes and thinking that it proves a point is idiotic

Blah, blah, keep twisting to justify your position.

110   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2015 Aug 21, 6:55pm  

lostand confused says

Blah, blah, keep twisting to justify your position.

That's been my only point with you. There was never any other point.

111   lostand confused   2015 Aug 21, 7:01pm  

YesYNot says

That's been my only point with you. There was never any other point.

Cute.

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