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female chimps apparently remain fertile as long as they live. no menopause.

there's a theory that human females have menopause because at some point a woman's genes are better off being a grandmother to help take care of grandkids rather than attempting to directly produce more children on her own, due to the high investment that human children require.

female chimps apparently remain fertile as long as they live. no menopause.

there's a theory that human females have menopause because at some point a woman's genes are better off being a grandmother to help take care of grandkids rather than attempting to directly produce more children on her own, due to the high investment that human children require.

Most women in the old days did not live till 50 to experience menopause, so the people at that time may not even have been aware of menopause.
Entirely possible female chimps could start to experience menopause if they started living longer.
Taking care of the grandkids is also a reason why women live longer.

female chimps apparently remain fertile as long as they live

CIC's one contribution to science is extensive research in this field.

Can't think of a comeback, hypocrite?

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thunderlips11 says

Seriously, though, if Beta Males were so undesirable, there sure are a lot of them, many with kids of their own. And yeah, some of them were tricked, but there are just too many kids who look like their dad to believe it's extremely high..

Maybe. But have you noticed how in your parents and grandparents generation, your relatives would always talk, often in front of or to their (grand)children, about who the (grand)child looked like, mother or father? When I was a kid, I could never understand why this was such a popular topic of discussion. But about 20 years ago, it suddenly dawned on me: If a child looks like it's father, everything is ok. If a child looks like it's mother, things may still be ok. If a child looks neither like it's father nor mother, then chances are a different person is the real father. Whether people knew explicitly why they were interested in this topic I do not know. This game of who-do-you-look-like was also more popular on the father's side of the family, and tellingly, also more popular among the women.

So, yeah, there was always social controls in place to check whether the children had the right father. And that would explain why many beta Males have children of their own. But there are plenty of bastards running around, at least 11% of children are according to a study from families from Beverly Hills (google it).

Related to justme's post, scientific studies have shown that the parents of the mother are highly more likely to say that a baby looks like the father. This is a defense mechanism to get the "father" to support the child regardless of whether or not it is his child. Evolution has finely honed this instinct.