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Why do ppl compare the Navy SEALs to let's say... an Ivy league education?
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2015 Nov 10, 7:46pm 28,736 views 99 comments
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Notice the difference, Rich is proud of the fact that he's some data/detail expert and at the same time, proudly displays his magnet HS, thinking that it overshadows his college namesake
Talking about magnet high schools is kind of lame. Shows a lack of perspective about the world. Maybe a middle-class naivete, if you will.
Rin
2015 Nov 16, 7:14am
Talking about magnet high schools is kind of lame. Shows a lack of perspective about the world. Maybe a middle-class naivete, if you will.
If it weren't so common, I wouldn't have mentioned it. There are also the middle class scholarship types to Philips Academy, who end up at regular private colleges like a Brandeis or a Lehigh, and then, talk about their prestigious HSs into their early 30s. And yes, these ppl have completely ordinary careers. I know a number of them.
Brandeis or a Lehigh
Overpriced garbage schools.......I look down upon people who spend money on that garbage. Where the hell is a Brandeis or Lehigh degree going to get you that you couldn't get with less money? Maybe somewhere if you are Jewish, but as a non-Jew, not happening, even if you choose to join ZBT or AEPi and lick ass.
I know one Indian guy from Sharon MA who went there for Undergrad and I believe Fordham Law....after many years as an associate he made partner somewhere.
The 4 people I personally know from Phillips academy had well off to rich parents. One guy recently bought Tory Burch (the designer) old home in the hamptons. His father is a cardiologist in Colts Neck, NJ
The other guy is a Cardiologist in the boston area and another is a neurologist in Greensboro NC ; the brother of the latter guy works for google.
I'm not sure if any of those guys needed to put phillips academy on their CV.
My cousin is marrying a Thayer in April. As in the great great great grandnephew of Sylvanus thayer, of west point fame, as well as the thayer academy and the thayer school of engineering at Dartmouth. His father went to deerfield academy in Deerfield MA and was a C student who ended up at Bucknell. I suspect he talks about his Deerfield days. In fact, my cousin was already thinking about sending her future kids to Deerfield to increase their chances at the Ivy League.
Rin
2015 Nov 17, 10:24am
Overpriced garbage schools.......I look down upon people who spend money on that garbage. Where the hell is a Brandeis or Lehigh degree going to get you that you couldn't get with less money?
His father went to deerfield academy in Deerfield MA and was a C student who ended up at Bucknell. I suspect he talks about his Deerfield days.
Well MMR, I think you're beginning to understand my line of thinking. For one, much of high school, even if it's Philips/Exeter/Deerfield/Milton/etc, for the regular middle classer, is a waste of time, if it doesn't result in direct Ivy League placement. And then, as you and I know, when your name isn't Gore/Kerry/Bush/Clinton/Kennedy, those chances decline perspicaciously, with each notch of one's class ranking.
Thus, I believe that my Univ of London distance program, (sorry, Univ of London International Programme, to make Bob happy) for a homeschooler w/ a few community college credits (plus CLEPs, again to make Bob happy), is the best way for the ordinary Joe, to cast himself into a near elite identity.
Rin
2015 Nov 17, 10:31am
Thus, I believe that my Univ of London distance program, (sorry, Univ of London International Programme, to make Bob happy) for a homeschooler w/ a few community college credits (plus CLEPs, again to make Bob happy), is the best way for the ordinary Joe, to cast himself into a near elite identity.
BTW, my South African/American acquaintance, a.k.a. "Eddie", works for a client today as a VP.
Not a big deal really, as in finance, VP simply means ... handling a major customer/account.
Rin
2015 Nov 17, 4:37pm
BTW, my South African/American acquaintance, a.k.a. "Eddie", works for a client today as a VP.
BTW, Eddie isn't alone. There's another guy down in Jo'burg, doing the same distance program today, while interning at a financial services company there. Apparently, ppl in these parts do know how to network.
Also, if you do attend medical school but later, want to leave medicine for management consulting, a London affiliation could still help with that career change.
I'm sure that a lot of doctors who get frustrated with their declining pay for work (insurance slaves, anyway) would be happy to have such an option in their back pocket.
(plus CLEPs, again to make Bob happy)
CLEPing for credit is a stupid idea which is penny wise and pound foolish. It's better to take AP courses, take the exam, get a 4 or 5 then repeat the same class as an undergrad if Med school is the focus.
Well MMR, I think you're beginning to understand my line of thinking
I understand it, but I'm intrigued with ways to get the most time out of the day; lifehacking. i would prefer to teach my children how to prepare for college years before college but to also excel in sports. A hybrid of the principles of homeschooling coupled with some college and/or the opportunity to go to a school that doesn't require one to be on campus all day along with some college.
Rin says
Philips/Exeter/Deerfield/Milton/etc, for the regular middle classer, is a waste of time, if it doesn't result in direct Ivy League placement.
I'd consider Phillips only if my kid was really good at ice hockey or lacrosse and had a crazy passion for it coupled with good grades.
You're a spring of innovative thinking. Too bad some people are unable to recognize it. I've learned a lot from the experience of discussing this topic
Rin
2015 Nov 21, 9:39am
CLEPing for credit is a stupid idea which is penny wise and pound foolish. It's better to take AP courses, take the exam, get a 4 or 5 then repeat the same class as an undergrad if Med school is the focus.
Yes, why do you think I'd been slamming Bob as some stupid asshole.
He's one of these state u types who's so lame, outside of the fact that he'd completed a bunch of CLEP exams, that he can't figure out that it's easier for a regular Joe/Jane to get a 4.0 in General Bio/Chem/Physics than let's say Immunology/Thermodynamics/Signals & Systems, if they CLEPed out of those starting courses. The fact that this went over his head that quickly, just showed me how useless he was, in giving advice to either you or Thunderlips.
Rin
2015 Nov 21, 9:43am
You're a spring of innovative thinking. Too bad some people are unable to recognize it. I've learned a lot from the experience of discussing this topic
No, it's that ppl like Bob are fuming because no matter what, he can't spin his so-called honors work at some West Wichita State (w/ CLEPs out of the introductory courses), into something prestigious. He'll always be showing up and debating Columbia, Wharton, and Harvard grads, trying to prove to them that he's smart, not realizing that they're laughing at him behind his back.
In reality, had he simply done the UoL distance program and gotten his first class honours in the LSE sponsored coursework, he'd already have that, without needing to make a continuous ass of himself, whenever he meets an elite school alumni. But ppl like him never learn.
State Uers like him are a lot like this ... 'Did I tell you that I'd gotten a 97% average in Advanced Control Theory? Did I tell you that that section was considered harder than the one taught, even at MIT?'
And yes, repeat that dialogue 20x and you get your typical insecure State User who'd some tough STEM honors majors.
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For the life of me, I'd gotten tired of the comparison.
All the wonks out there, like to compare passing the training to enter the Navy SEALs or really, any other special forces team like the Delta Force, UK's SAS, etc, to getting an education from let's say Harvard University.
For one, Al Gore had attended Harvard undergrad. He was a C/C- HU student and later, flunked out of law school at Vanderbilt. Wow, I'm impressed.
At the same time, other ppl at HU, screw around and basically get by with B-'s to B+'s, doing minimal work. The grade inflation there allows the privileged brats to come out with a decent enough GPA, not to look like complete dolts. And then of course, there are those workaholic premed Asian types, who routinely get A's and A-'s on everything. But then that begs the question, how are those assignments and exams, any different from let's say the Univ of Illinois/Urbana-Champaign, where grade inflation in the sciences is minimal and the failure rate is high?
You see, there's no room for the Al Gores of the world in the Navy SEALs or any other special forces out there. Basically, lazy stupid *fortunate son* a-holes, ring the bell during that first week. In the end, only some 20-25% make it through the basic SEALs preparation training. In contrast, almost anyone with a modicum of intelligence can pass at Harvard.
A way to test this theory (that Harvard is only difficult to gain admissions into) is to spend a few years in the Boston area. Sign up for the nighttime/HU Extension program but then, take classes during the day with the regular Harvard students as a *special student*, since you can do that, if you get a B+'s in the night time sections. If you can't get a B- or above in those sections, then you're clearly not a bright person since almost everyone I knew, who'd done exactly that, got B's and A's along with ordinary Harvard students without too much trouble. Sure, you may not be in the top of the pack, but you won't be a D student either. In fact, thanks to idiots like Al Gore, no one will get a D.
The Ivies are overrated. In contrast, the SEALs are the real deal.