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Why do ppl compare the Navy SEALs to let's say... an Ivy league education?


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2015 Nov 10, 7:46pm   28,727 views  99 comments

by Rin   ➕follow (10)   💰tip   ignore  

For the life of me, I'd gotten tired of the comparison.

All the wonks out there, like to compare passing the training to enter the Navy SEALs or really, any other special forces team like the Delta Force, UK's SAS, etc, to getting an education from let's say Harvard University.

For one, Al Gore had attended Harvard undergrad. He was a C/C- HU student and later, flunked out of law school at Vanderbilt. Wow, I'm impressed.

At the same time, other ppl at HU, screw around and basically get by with B-'s to B+'s, doing minimal work. The grade inflation there allows the privileged brats to come out with a decent enough GPA, not to look like complete dolts. And then of course, there are those workaholic premed Asian types, who routinely get A's and A-'s on everything. But then that begs the question, how are those assignments and exams, any different from let's say the Univ of Illinois/Urbana-Champaign, where grade inflation in the sciences is minimal and the failure rate is high?

You see, there's no room for the Al Gores of the world in the Navy SEALs or any other special forces out there. Basically, lazy stupid *fortunate son* a-holes, ring the bell during that first week. In the end, only some 20-25% make it through the basic SEALs preparation training. In contrast, almost anyone with a modicum of intelligence can pass at Harvard.

A way to test this theory (that Harvard is only difficult to gain admissions into) is to spend a few years in the Boston area. Sign up for the nighttime/HU Extension program but then, take classes during the day with the regular Harvard students as a *special student*, since you can do that, if you get a B+'s in the night time sections. If you can't get a B- or above in those sections, then you're clearly not a bright person since almost everyone I knew, who'd done exactly that, got B's and A's along with ordinary Harvard students without too much trouble. Sure, you may not be in the top of the pack, but you won't be a D student either. In fact, thanks to idiots like Al Gore, no one will get a D.

The Ivies are overrated. In contrast, the SEALs are the real deal.

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96   MMR   2015 Nov 19, 10:59pm  

Rin says

(plus CLEPs, again to make Bob happy)

CLEPing for credit is a stupid idea which is penny wise and pound foolish. It's better to take AP courses, take the exam, get a 4 or 5 then repeat the same class as an undergrad if Med school is the focus.

97   MMR   2015 Nov 19, 11:05pm  

Rin says

Well MMR, I think you're beginning to understand my line of thinking

I understand it, but I'm intrigued with ways to get the most time out of the day; lifehacking. i would prefer to teach my children how to prepare for college years before college but to also excel in sports. A hybrid of the principles of homeschooling coupled with some college and/or the opportunity to go to a school that doesn't require one to be on campus all day along with some college.

Rin says

Philips/Exeter/Deerfield/Milton/etc, for the regular middle classer, is a waste of time, if it doesn't result in direct Ivy League placement.

I'd consider Phillips only if my kid was really good at ice hockey or lacrosse and had a crazy passion for it coupled with good grades.

You're a spring of innovative thinking. Too bad some people are unable to recognize it. I've learned a lot from the experience of discussing this topic

98   Rin   2015 Nov 21, 9:39am  

MMR says

CLEPing for credit is a stupid idea which is penny wise and pound foolish. It's better to take AP courses, take the exam, get a 4 or 5 then repeat the same class as an undergrad if Med school is the focus.

Yes, why do you think I'd been slamming Bob as some stupid asshole.

He's one of these state u types who's so lame, outside of the fact that he'd completed a bunch of CLEP exams, that he can't figure out that it's easier for a regular Joe/Jane to get a 4.0 in General Bio/Chem/Physics than let's say Immunology/Thermodynamics/Signals & Systems, if they CLEPed out of those starting courses. The fact that this went over his head that quickly, just showed me how useless he was, in giving advice to either you or Thunderlips.

99   Rin   2015 Nov 21, 9:43am  

MMR says

You're a spring of innovative thinking. Too bad some people are unable to recognize it. I've learned a lot from the experience of discussing this topic

No, it's that ppl like Bob are fuming because no matter what, he can't spin his so-called honors work at some West Wichita State (w/ CLEPs out of the introductory courses), into something prestigious. He'll always be showing up and debating Columbia, Wharton, and Harvard grads, trying to prove to them that he's smart, not realizing that they're laughing at him behind his back.

In reality, had he simply done the UoL distance program and gotten his first class honours in the LSE sponsored coursework, he'd already have that, without needing to make a continuous ass of himself, whenever he meets an elite school alumni. But ppl like him never learn.

State Uers like him are a lot like this ... 'Did I tell you that I'd gotten a 97% average in Advanced Control Theory? Did I tell you that that section was considered harder than the one taught, even at MIT?'

And yes, repeat that dialogue 20x and you get your typical insecure State User who'd some tough STEM honors majors.

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