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Strategist says

Nope. Try again.

Bush let Osama go. That was weakness. Are you denying this?

Strategist says

He screwed up when it cam to controlling ISIS.

ISIS rose to power after Bush had Saddam killed, and largely because of Bush's fuckups in the Middle East. Bush took down a secularist allowing religious nutjobs to rise to power. Bush wasted America's resources and weakened our military spreading it out where it wasn't needed so it couldn't stop the real threats. Bush's policies and evidence of his torture program is still a recruiting tool for terrorists.

Bush the single person most responsible for ISIS's success with the possible exception of Dick Cheney.

Strategist says

Huh? Are you saying Obama did not screw up because Bush screwed up? Hello? They both screwed up.

I said no such thing. However, if Gore, who had been elected, actually served his presidency, ISIS would not have risen to power.

Terrorism is caused primarily by the colossal fuckups of the Republican Party, the party incapable of making competent foreign policy.

Dan8267 says

Honey buns, pollution is far more dangerous than terrorism and kills far more Americans.

meh, pollution is declining:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/air-pollution-improve-life-expectancy-us/

terrorism is increasing.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

He screwed up when it cam to controlling ISIS.

ISIS rose to power after Bush had Saddam killed, and largely because of Bush's fuckups in the Middle East. Bush took down a secularist allowing religious nutjobs to rise to power. Bush wasted America's resources and weakened our military spreading it out where it wasn't needed so it couldn't stop the real threats. Bush's policies and evidence of his torture program is still a recruiting tool for terrorists.

Bush the single person most responsible for ISIS's success with the possible exception of Dick Cheney.

Obama has been our President for 7 years, did nothing, and you blame Bush for the rise of ISIS.

Dan8267 says

Honey buns, pollution is far more dangerous than terrorism and kills far more Americans. It does it indirectly through things like cancer and other diseases, but it's far more effective at murdering Americans than terrorism ever could be. It also aborts babies. More babies are aborted through miscarriages caused directly or indirectly by pollution than by mothers choosing to have abortions.

He he he. I like your red, non polluting, convertible, electric car, Dan. Where did you get it from?

btw, might there be some connection between the paris talks on global warming and the terrorist attacks happening just before the talks?

the saudis stand to lose many billions of dollars if we all stop buying so much of their oil. maybe the attack was intended to distract people from paying too much attention to the paris talks.

it's starting to seem like the saudis have many more terrorists ready and willing to go and kill random civilians starting out from all the saudi-funded mosques around the world. the saudis can just basically push a button to cause more killing and distract everyone from whatever topic of the day they want to distract us from. though maybe they don't have the killers under such good control.

islam is more of a weapon than a religion:

“Islam is a monster, is a beast,” Jaser is heard saying on one intercepted conversation. “Islam is a very powerful weapon, OK, and if it’s in the right hands...then you can bulldoze the whole world.”

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/terror-suspect-called-islam-powerful-weapon-trial-hears/article22803996/

If hating Obama is wrong then i don't want to be right.

meh, pollution is declining:

Not CO2 emissions.

terrorism is increasing.

From the Department of Defense's 2014 report on climate change,

In our defense strategy, we refer to climate change as a ‘threat multiplier’ because it has the potential to exacerbate many of the challenges we are dealing with today — from infectious disease to terrorism. We are already beginning to see some of these impacts.

Climate change will threaten food supplies and water supplies. Any society is only three meals away from revolt. The instability caused by climate change will increase terrorism. That's why the DOD calls it a "threat multiplier".

Think about it. A nation of poor and hungry men are more likely to join terrorist groups. Climate change most certainly will increase poverty and hunger as fertile land ceases to be.

Strategist says

Obama has been our President for 7 years, did nothing, and you blame Bush for the rise of ISIS.

Yes. The full impact of a presidency is only realized years, even decades, after it has ended. It takes time for the effects of policies to be realized. If you think every effect immediately follows its cause with no delay, then you are truly foolish.

Strategist says

He he he. I like your red, non polluting, convertible, electric car, Dan. Where did you get it from?

You are attempting to make the argument that if a person causes any pollution whatsoever, he cannot support policy design to wisely manage the environment and minimize the environmental, financial, and military risks of climate change. This argument is fucking retarded.

It is impossible to eliminate all pollution. That does not mean we should not wisely manage pollution levels and try to minimize the impact. Nor does it mean we shouldn't implement measures that will improve the long-term prospects of the world like a carbon tax or gasoline taxes, which I would gladly pay to ensure a better world for future generations, you selfish prick.

You argument is nothing more than a false dichotomy. It is logically equivalent to stating that a person who commits a minor crime like jaywalking or shoplifting should have no objections to the laws prohibiting rape and murder from being revoked. And your argument is equally stupid and is only persuasive to fools.

Ironman says

Speaking of evidence, you got that Bin Laden being killed video yet?

Thanks for proving my point from this post

Strategist says

Anyone who thinks executing Osama Bin Laden was wrong, is a fucking idiot

Osama bin Laden is now a martyr to hundreds of millions of Muslims rather than being locked up and pathetic in a supermax prison. Instead of being a reminder that no terrorist escapes the law, he'll now be a legend, a hero, a martyr, and even a survivor to many as there is no proof of his death and many will use that to their advantage.

You are simply wrong. Keeping Osama in prison would have been a deterrent to terrorism. Instead, Obama granted Osama immortality. Idiots often think the rest of the world is idiotic because they fail to realize their own stupidity. You have just illustrated that principle.

Even your butt buddy strategist thinks you're an idiot on this one. He was praising Obama's killing of bin Laden without trial.

I don't need to present any proof to you, and you would accept nothing as proof anyway. All that matters is that to the 99% of people in America who believe bin Laden was killed by Seal Team Six, you sound like a fucking idiot. So I'll keep reminding the world that you think he's still alive. Please keep elaborating on the conspiracy theory you have. You don't sound crazy at all.

No really, I'm talking to the invisible black man in the chair.

dodgerfanjohn says

Leon Panetta had to agree to let Obama do him anally to get the ok to kill Bin Laden.

mystery solved.

Dan8267 says

Yes. The full impact of a presidency is only realized years, even decades, after it has ended. It takes time for the effects of policies to be realized. If you think every effect immediately follows its cause with no delay, then you are truly foolish.

Obamas last 7 years is already starting to realize. A mismanaged foreign policy is showing up it's results. It'll take many years to fix that now.