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Brussels Attack


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2016 Mar 22, 7:27am   35,077 views  146 comments

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/mar/22/brussels-airport-explosions-live-updates

Back in the 1950s, then president Eisenhower commissioned a study to determine why the Middle East hates America. It's conclusion was that they hate us because we set up puppet governments to suppress them and steal their natural resources, and the study concluded that was exactly what we should do because it was in our economic and military interests.

The idiots in the military who did that cost-benefit analysis got it way wrong. Modern terrorism is the direct consequence of their faulty business plan. They didn't have the intelligence to foresee all the hidden costs of using military force for corrupt interests. It's time we rethink this strategy.

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143   Heraclitusstudent   2016 Mar 24, 6:23pm  

curious2 says

If they stay, even when offered a free ticket, then they are effectively declaring that they are unbelievers, infidels.

Well but tickets to Mecca aren't THAT expensive.
Most people wouldn't take a free ticket at the price of never coming back. It's much easier to go buy your own ticket, go there and come back.

So yes we can do that but I don't think it would have much effect.

Also this is a worldwide problem. You can't ignore the rest of the world. You need to go for the root of the problem. You need to fight the ideas.

144   curious2   2016 Mar 24, 6:37pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

You need to fight the ideas.

I agree about that, and I've lamented previously that two presidents in a row (R+D) have insisted on publicly expressing "respect" for Islam.

Heraclitusstudent says

It's much easier to go buy your own ticket, go there and come back.

I had already suggested the possibility of legislation saying people who choose to go to a specific list of countries that, for example, advocate the violent overthrow of our Constitutional government are thereby choosing to renounce whatever right to return they may have had. The offer of a free ticket would in itself require legislation if it is to be publicly funded. The two suggestions could be easily combined in one statute. I think such a prudent defensive measure would be more patriotic than the so-called Patriot Act using the presence of potential terrorists as an excuse to spy on everyone.

146   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Mar 30, 10:14am  

Donald Trump Finds New City to Insult: Brussels

Note the Date of article -January 28th, 2016.

LONDON — He incensed Paris and London by saying that some of their neighborhoods were so overrun with radicals that the police were too scared to enter.

He raised Scottish tempers by threatening to pull the plug on his investments there, including his luxury golf courses, if British politicians barred him from entering Britain.

Now Donald J. Trump has upset the already beleaguered people of Belgium, calling its capital, Brussels, “a hellhole.”

Asked by the Fox Business Network anchor Maria Bartiromo about the feasibility of his proposal to bar foreign Muslims from entering the United States, Mr. Trump argued that Belgium and France had been blighted by the failure of Muslims in these countries to integrate.

“There is something going on, Maria,” he said. “Go to Brussels. Go to Paris. Go to different places. There is something going on and it’s not good, where they want Shariah law, where they want this, where they want things that — you know, there has to be some assimilation. There is no assimilation. There is something bad going on.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/28/world/europe/trump-finds-new-city-to-insult-brussels.html

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