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Diversity divides societies, lowers mutual trust


               
2016 Apr 4, 11:48am   57,010 views  234 comments

by Patrick   follow (59)  

http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/


The Downside of Diversity

From multicultural festivals to pronouncements from political leaders, the message is the same: our differences make us stronger. But a massive new study, based on detailed interviews of nearly 30,000 people across America, has concluded just the opposite. Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam -- famous for "Bowling Alone," his 2000 book on declining civic engagement -- has found that the greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote and the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity and work on community projects. In the most diverse communities, neighbors trust one another about half as much as...


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207   Patrick   2025 Sep 4, 9:33am  

I think they have just about the lowest birth rate in the world.

They need cheap housing and a ban on feminism.
208   yawaraf   2025 Sep 5, 12:40pm  

Population density in South Korea is about 500/km².
Germany 250
USA 40

They need to reject immigration and maintain a strong army to guard against the commies and other possible enemies. This way they preserve their country for Koreans.

Low fertility rate seems desirable until their population drops to a reasonable number.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_density
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/EN.POP.DNST?locations=KR


209   Patrick   2025 Sep 5, 2:28pm  

True, some places are overpopulated, even if the world as a whole is not.
213   AD   2025 Oct 5, 6:09pm  

Cesar Chavez was against illegal immigration and encouraged the federal government to enforce immigration law.
214   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Oct 5, 7:33pm  

Patrick says







Many Muslim countries won’t take Muslims from “shitty” Muslim countries out of fear of terrorism and thug behavior.

But we take everyone like retards.
215   HeadSet   2025 Oct 5, 7:43pm  

Fortwaye says

Many Muslim countries won’t take Muslims from “shitty” Muslim countries out of fear of terrorism and thug behavior.

That is also a strategy to spread Islam in the West. Saudi Arabia, et al, will not take in refugees but will spend money to build mosques in the West where these refugees settle.
216   Patrick   2025 Oct 17, 12:47pm  

https://neofeudalreview.substack.com/p/the-nursing-home-economy


Other countries which apparently have decent aging care facilities - Norway (or maybe not), Sweden, Denmark, Japan - are all historically homogenous cultures with high societal trust, but America today is a desolate wasteland, not homogenous at all and with very low societal trust, so deciding on some government policy to improve things is simply not going to work.
224   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   2025 Dec 4, 2:42pm  

The Roman Elites preferred foreign slaves to domestic proles.
225   MolotovCocktail   2025 Dec 4, 3:33pm  

Patrick says

I think they have just about the lowest birth rate in the world.

They need cheap housing and a ban on feminism.


Real TFR in Tier 1 cities in China (Beijing, Shanghai, Hong Kong) is now 0.25.

Other high tier cities is 0.5.

Those are not tyos.
226   MolotovCocktail   2025 Dec 4, 3:36pm  

yawaraf says

Low fertility rate seems desirable until their population drops to a reasonable number.


That's not how population collapse works:



It can't be stopped on a dime, either.

North Korea just has to wait it out and then simply march in. The highways in SK will have 90% empty traffic for Nork tanks to drive on.

Actually, Norks won't have to deploy many tanks by then.
229   KgK one   2026 Jan 15, 2:41pm  

Many ways to split people religion, race, job type,gender, sex, or place of birth,language, melenin amount, wealth amount, Genes, ....
Nature has many different animals n plants to survive different conditions.

Hitler wanted only blond hair blue eyes.
What is homogeneity are we looking for ?

-location of birth GERMAN OR UK born? Small population n we already had 2 world war to decide this homogeneity

-religion protestants then which sect? Catholics n protestants at war ww1 /ww2/ UK vs French vs German

- sex all men , can't reproduce n might turn gay

Not possible to have all homo
230   Patrick   2026 Jan 15, 4:00pm  

Hitler wanted Germany to be for Germans only. Seems reasonable, except that he didn't count German Jews as Germans and wanted them out, one way or another.

Then he also wanted Eastern Europe for the German people to expand into, and started killing lots of Poles and Russians to do it. Not cool.

KgK one says


What is homogeneity are we looking for ?


For America, I think it should remain fundamentally European, allowing only high-value immigrants to agree to thoroughly assimilate into American culture, speaking American English and hopefully also intermarrying with long-established Americans.

The goal should be for all US citizens to have an exclusive commitment to America alone, and not to Somalia, or Mexico, or to Israel for that matter. Only to America.
231   KgK one   2026 Jan 15, 7:41pm  

Sucks to be poles, muslims, Germans, russians.. have tried to take them out.

"For America, I think it should remain fundamentally European, allowing only high-value immigrants to agree to thoroughly assimilate into American culture, speaking American English"

America was never really europen til 300 years ago, millions of natives lived here who taught first europeans how to farm. Then millions of Africa were brought for cotton picking, then chinese for railroads, poor Italians and Irish potato famine brought more Europeans. US hated those poor europeans in 1920. Europeans are at constant war.

The famous line from the Statue of Liberty is from Emma Lazarus's sonnet, "The New Colossus," which reads, "Give me your tired, your poor, / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" and welcomes immigrants, symbolizing hope and freedom, with the full text inscribed on a bronze plaque inside the pedestal.

*Allowing high value immigrants makes perfect sense. Though not great incentive to come to USA if they are high value. Early Europeans were persecuted groups or criminals from French n british. There are too many durg addicts in usa so we could use some high value immigrants.

American English is almost same as british. If you read Shakespeare 400 years ago, English has changed significantly. If to tell most European to speak English, they will try to kill you. French n Germans n many other love their language.
English is distant relatives within the vast Indo-European language family, sharing a common ancestor called Proto-Indo-European (PIE). Future we can have AI develop optimum world language.

Hope no gets offended, goal is to discuss. We are all made from electron ,proton,n neutron and full of empty space.
232   Patrick   2026 Jan 15, 8:24pm  

Chauncey M. Depew, during his speech at the Statue of Liberty’s unveiling on October 28, 1886, said:


The rays from this beacon… will welcome the poor and the persecuted… It will teach them that there is room and brotherhood for all who will support our institutions and aid in our development; but that those who come to disturb our peace and dethrone our laws are aliens and enemies forever.
233   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2026 Jan 15, 8:41pm  

KgK one says

Sucks to be poles, muslims, Germans, russians.. have tried to take them out.

"For America, I think it should remain fundamentally European, allowing only high-value immigrants to agree to thoroughly assimilate into American culture, speaking American English"

America was never really europen til 300 years ago, millions of natives lived here who taught first europeans how to farm. Then millions of Africa were brought for cotton picking, then chinese for railroads, poor Italians and Irish potato famine brought more Europeans. US hated those poor europeans in 1920. Europeans are at constant war.

The famous line from the Statue of Liberty is from Emma Lazarus's sonnet, "The New Colossus," which reads, "Give me your tired, your poor, / Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free" and welcomes immigrants, symbolizing hope and freedom, with the full text inscribed on a bronze plaque inside the pedestal.

*Allowing high value immigrants makes perfect sense. Though not great incentive to come to USA if they are high value. Early Europeans were persecuted groups or criminals from French n british. There are too many durg addicts in usa so we could use some high value immigrants.

American English is almost same as british. If you read Shakespeare 400 years ago, English has changed significantly. If to tell most European to speak English, they will try to kill you. French n Germans n many other love their language.
English is distant relatives within the vast Indo-European language family, sharing a common ancestor called Proto-Indo-European (PIE). Future we can have AI develop optimum world language.

Hope no gets offended, goal is to discuss. We are all made from electron ,proton,n neutron and full of empty space.


We struggled as a nation, who hasn't, everyone had a hard history. But we stabilized and created a very high trust society. These were times you didn't need to lock your door or your car. Some of us remember that. Even when immigrants came, it wasn't that many, they assimilated and became American. And at some point that changed, some dickhead decided we need to import whole world over for various reasons. And they started importing people from countries where scams are the way of life, assimilating wasn't a thing anymore. Can you blame Nigerian or Somalian for scamming, when this is all they know? We should have known, instead we just let all these scams flourish. You can't bring people like that into a high trust, honor system society. And because of that everything has gone to shit. Streets aren't safe, scams everywhere, and there is no end in sight. We are starting to look and function like third world because we imported third world in such a number that it changed our culture. And we need to undo that.

This is one thing I very much agree with Trump admin on "Import third world, become third world". We did. All I see is massive immigrant scams everywhere, and fraudulent government spending. Not all fraud is immigrants, but that's very widespread and it's culture changing.
234   KgK one   2026 Jan 16, 11:08am  

Patrick says

Chauncey M. Depew, during his speech at the Statue of Liberty’s unveiling on October 28, 1886, said:



The rays from this beacon… will welcome the poor and the persecuted… It will teach them that there is room and brotherhood for all who will support our institutions and aid in our development; but that those who come to disturb our peace and dethrone our laws are aliens and enemies forever.



Yes agree that we dont need people disturb peace. Somolies etc are doing lot of crimes n fraud should go. For comparing , we can use various crime : fraud, homicide, theft etc of us citizen vs immigrated ones per 100,000k to see .

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