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2016 Apr 10, 6:43am   20,805 views  48 comments

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What would you say to someone who claims to pay over 50% in taxes? Another claimed to be approaching 60%, ostensibly because they have a couple jobs and a sole proprietorship, and including sales, property and so on.

I'm sure you geniuses have heard this before. What would you say to disabuse them of this notion, since I'm quite certain its fantasy, or bad math at least?

Tia!

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41   MMR   2016 Apr 12, 11:30pm  

YesYNot says

Also, it is more the visceral fat (around organs)

another place where BMI fails miserably. Lot of south asians have normal BMI but relatively high rates of CVD and T2DM. This is correlated with them being "skinny fat" IOW, having significant deposits of visceral fat

42   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Apr 13, 4:22am  

MMR says

BMI fails miserably.

Bmi is not a measure of fat. It is simply an easy to measure risk factor. As such, it fails at what it is not and excels at what it is.

43   CL   2016 Apr 13, 12:04pm  

Since Curious questions the "high functioning" part, can we just say "autistic"? Do autistic people bring every conversation, no matter how innocuous, to Obamneycare? Is that a symptom?

Could be, but I am no expert on mental disorders. Whatever it is, I am confident that we could narrow his particular flavor of illness down to the "people you avoid at parties".

44   curious2   2016 Apr 13, 12:09pm  

CL says

Since Curious questions the "high functioning" part, can we just say "autistic"? Do autistic people bring every conversation, no matter how innocuous, to Obamneycare?

As anyone can see, 80% of my posts have nothing to do with Obamneycare. This post asked about tax liability, which cannot be understood accurately without considering the Obamneycare tax penalty. Besides, I wasn't even the first in this thread to point out the Obamneycare tax penalty. You posted questions and I answered honestly and you reply in a way that shows you are an ungrateful partisan whose priority is partisan high fiving rather than objective fact. I helped you in a prior thread too, but this time you seem to have been "triggered" by the mention of relevant facts about your cherished Obamneycare, which I hadn't mentioned in the prior thread. You should just thank me and move on.

45   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Apr 13, 12:36pm  

CL says

can we just say "autistic"?

From http://www.autism.org.uk/labels

High-functioning autism and Asperger syndrome are both part of the autism spectrum. The main difference between the two is thought to be in language development: people with Asperger syndrome, typically, will not have had delayed language development when younger.

Of course we don't know if Aspy is actually on the spectrum, but if so, we would not be able to differentiate between Aspergers and autism. I'm going to use Aspy as hydro suggested so that nobody searching for Aspergers happens to stumble onto this train wreck of a conversation.

As I explained here, it's not the spectrum issues that are the problem so much as the bitterness. Combined, they produce:
CL says

Whatever it is, I am confident that we could narrow his particular flavor of illness down to the "people you avoid at parties".

46   anonymous   2016 Apr 14, 11:15am  

so that nobody searching for Aspergers happens to stumble onto this train wreck of a conversation

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I just read the entire thread. And i can see why you would not want anyone to read it.

Either you guys felt dumb for getting owned, and your only comeback to the facts you don't like is to call the messenger a retard; or I'm somewhere on the spectrum myself. Possibly both

47   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Apr 14, 2:34pm  

errc says

Either you guys felt dumb for getting owned, and your only comeback to the facts you don't like is to call the messenger a retard; or I'm somewhere on the spectrum myself. Possibly both

I can only speak for myself, this thread is not why I'm calling him aspy, and I agree with much of what he's written about taxes here. My reasons are based on interacting with him over the last 4 months, and it's spelled out so some degree in this comment:
http://patrick.net/?p=1286891&c=1279137#comment-1279137

But it's not just one instance. It's a pattern over many threads.

48   curious2   2016 Apr 14, 2:52pm  

YesYNot says

But it's not just one instance. It's a pattern over many threads.

Though YesYNot insists on getting the last word, and usually I let him, I will compromise again by linking to what he said before. I looked again at his comment that first persuaded me he's a lying troll, and it contained neither sarcasm nor humor. In subsequent comments, he appeared to endorse many current Democrats' proposals to conscript young American men to kill and die on behalf of MIC sponsors in America's current military misadventures, in addition to endorsing Democrats' historic decisions to conscript young men to kill and die on behalf of patronage network sponsors in both Viet Nam and World War I (which he later changed to World War II). He claimed later to have been joking, but I will leave that for others to judge: maybe he has an incredibly horrible sense of humor and likes to joke about actually slaughtering innocent people, in addition to lying about refugees. In terms of diagnoses, he might be a pathological liar, i.e. a person who lies compulsively and out of all proportion to any discernible goal. When counting the lies of a compulsive liar, one may reasonably include some examples that might have seemed borderline if they had come from someone who doesn't lie compulsively. YesYNot is also obsessive, and insists on lying about having lied, so I won't be surprised if he insists on getting the last word again, even though I will link again to ensure the last words are already his.

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