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20 feared dead after Florida nightclub terror attack


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2016 Jun 12, 7:04am   29,407 views  116 comments

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/index.html

Orlando Police Chief John Mina said Sunday morning, just hours after a shooter opened fire in the club. At least 42 people have been transported for medical treatment, he said. Police have shot and killed the gunman, Mina told reporters.

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112   marcus   2016 Jun 13, 3:37pm  

dublin hillz says

Their decision to "avenge the prophet" should have been met with severe countermeasures that would make potential sympathizers think twice before attempting likewise acts.

Right. Brilliant. Who are "they" or "them." Who exactly gets the severe counter measures ? Random Muslims ? Perhaps some random Imams that have talked hate against the infidels ? Sure that's not going to trigger more attacks from suicidal terrorists.

The guys who actually did the attacks were killed and are in heaven with their virgin harem now.

113   Strategist   2016 Jun 13, 4:07pm  

Heraclitusstudent says

Ah, so you understand that publicly shaming Islam is more likely to cause violence than to prevent it.

Actually it isn't. What Charlie Hebdo did is violating some islamic blasphemy rule. You don't need to do that. You just need to point out the obvious:

For ex: "Do you think God created most of humanity outside Islam and condemn people to an eternity of hell fire, through no fault of their own, just because they were born from the wrong parents and are not Muslims? If you believe that, you believe that God is incredibly stupid and immoral, and that makes you incredibly stupid and immoral. "

You need to rub the nose of these people in reality. That's it.

Works in schools through peer pressure. If we can get more teens to dump Islam through public shaming we will be ahead of the game.

114   Strategist   2016 Jun 13, 4:11pm  

marcus says

Right. Brilliant. Who are "they" or "them." Who exactly gets the severe counter measures ? Random Muslims ? Perhaps some random Imams that have talked hate against the infidels ? Sure that's not going to trigger more attacks from suicidal terrorists.

Marcus, the problem with you is you are a nice guy, a teacher who cares for the well being of students.
So tell us... how would you stop Islamic attacks?

115   dublin hillz   2016 Jun 13, 4:12pm  

marcus says

Perhaps some random Imams that have talked hate against the infidels ?

They would be the ace of spades.

Ultimately, there will have to be tough decisions made and no choice presents a pain free path. We can choose to sit back and get picked off - 3,000 here, 100 there, 50 there. Alternatively, a strategy can be developed that results in projected long term minimal damage to the westerners. Moreover, freedom of the press is simply not a right and not a way of life that can be negotiated away out of appeasement. Think of it like this - you can invite a guest to your house for the evening and not say certain things out of politeness and to prevent tension. But if the guest moves in and becomes a permanent resident in your abode and you have to modify your behavior, speech, conduct in perpetuity, then you individual character and personality is lost/transformed forever. As a western society, we must not let that happen by any means necessary - whether by covert military action or by isolating the risky regions of the world as much as possible both culturally and economically.

116   NDrLoR   2016 Jun 13, 8:27pm  

Virtually unknown today, but 89 years ago on the very day Lucky Lindy was flying the Atlantic for the first time, May 18, 1927, and women with bobbed hair dressed in short skirts http://www.thepeoplehistory.com/1927fashions.html were dancing to jazz over their new radio sets, the worst terrorist attack in American history up until the Oklahoma City bombing took place in Bath, Michigan, when crazed school board member Andrew Kehoe detonated hundreds of pounds of dynamite he'd secreted within the walls and foundation of the brand new school house by virtue of his access as a board member, resulting in 45 deaths and 58 injuries, only five fewer than the current attack. On that morning, he first killed his wife and burned his house. Then he burned his barn down after tying his horses' feet together so they couldn't escape. He drove his Model T pickup into town and set off the dynamite. As the school principal came out, Kehoe fired his rifle at the bed of his truck, detonating more dynamite which killed himself and the principal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster

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