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Making America more like Scandinavia


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2016 Jul 12, 10:28am   53,806 views  179 comments

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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/nordic-countries-united-states/490847/

A once powerful demographic group is losing ground in American politics. For most of the countrys history, white Christian Americathe cultural and political edifice built primarily by white Protestant Christians set the tone for our national conversations and shaped American ideals. But today, many white Christian Americans feel profoundly anxious as their numbers and influence are waning. The two primary branches of their family tree, white mainline and white evangelical Protestants, offer competing narratives about their decline. White mainline Protestants blame evangelical Protestants for turning off the younger generation with their anti-gay rhetoric and tendency to conflate Christianity with conservative, nationalist...

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92   zzyzzx   2018 Jul 12, 10:59am  

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/06/polish-mp-our-country-is-safe-because-we-didnt-accept-illegal-muslim-migrants/

Polish MP: Our country is safe because we didn’t accept illegal Muslim migrants

Channel 4 host Cathy Newman asks Tarczyński “how many refugees Poland has taken,” Tarczyński says “zero”. When Newman asks him if he is proud of that, he says: “If you’re asking me about illegal Muslim migrants, not even one will come to Poland, if it’s illegal.”

The Polish MP explains how his country has accepted already 2 million Ukrainians who are working peacefully in the country. He adds that Poland will not receive even one Muslim, because that is what “we’ve promised”.

When Newman says it sounds like he’s proud of it and reminds him of accusations of racism, Tarczyński says:

“This is what our people expect from our government (…) this is why Poland is so safe, this is the reason why we had not even one terrorist attack”.
93   zzyzzx   2018 Jul 17, 9:20am  

https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/07/17/czech-pm-eu-must-turn-back-boats-resettling-migrants-road-hell/

Czech PM: EU Must Turn Back Boats, Resettling Migrants Is ‘Road to Hell’

On Twitter, Babiš stressed that the bloc should follow Australia’s lead and turn back the boats, writing: “We must send a clear signal that illegal migration has ended and that the European Union is ready to return illegal immigrants immediately.”

Interior Minister Jan Hamáček said the government is offering Italy alternative forms of assistance including the possibility of sending border guards and experts to help push back migrants in North Africa.

“We must focus on the solution to the migrant crisis causes and the ways of halting the flow of illegal migrants, including the fight with their smugglers,” he told CTK. “We will not tackle the migrant crisis by keeping the door to Europe open to uncontrolled migration.”

The Czech Republic’s fellow Visegrád nation Hungary took a similar line, with Fidesz parliamentary spokesman István Hollik stating: “We will not be accepting anyone, as Hungarian voters made it clear at the last election that they do not want to live in a nation of immigrants.”

Describing the NGO boats ferrying migrants across the Mediterranean as “Soros ships”, in reference to open borders-backing globalist billionaire George Soros, Hollik added that “Hungarians reject the Soros plan”.
94   zzyzzx   2018 Jul 25, 12:26pm  

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/07/hungary-officially-pulls-out-of-un-migration-pact-as-it-encourages-migration/#.W1cxG4yUuHE.twitter

Hungary officially pulls out of UN migration pact as it ‘encourages migration’

It has become clear that differences between Hungary’s position on migration and the UN’s approach are irreconcilable, Szijjarto told a press conference.

“Hungary will maintain its position and no global package can change that”, he added.

“We see migration processes from a different perspective,” he said. The UN believes that migration is unavoidable, beneficial and should be supported, while Hungary considers it a danger to Hungary and Europe, he said, adding that the UN’s aim was to encourage migration whereas Hungary’s goal was to stop it.

The Global Compact for Migration includes some agreeable targets, such as taking action against human smugglers, but its effect will be contrary even to these, he said. A document that encourages migration will only benefit human smugglers because they can then convince more people to set off, telling them that they will be accepted in line with the global compact, Szijjarto said.

Hungary’s position is that it would be unnatural to change the population of the continent and global efforts should instead be made to stop migration, he said.

The migration compact includes certain obligations that Hungary would not be willing fulfil, such as organising training sessions for migrants before they set off and after they arrive, granting allowances to those send home remittances, enabling NGOs to help migrants submit complaints, increasing migrant reception capacities and viewing border crossing as a human rights issue instead of a security issue, he added.

Hungary has introduced “precisely contrary measures” in order to protect the security of citizens, Szijjarto said.
In response to a question, he said that considering that the US had not even participated in the talks on the Global Compact for Migration and several countries had expressed dissatisfaction at the end of talks, Hungary was unlikely to meet with any negative fallout as a result of its announcement.
96   Patrick   2018 Nov 11, 4:56pm  

Booger says


That's an excellent photo because it describes Polish history in a nutshell.

"Pole" (pronounced with the final "e") literally means "field" in Polish. The country's name indicates its geography. Poland is very flat north of the Carpathians, and has historically been rolled over in both directions: Nazis from the west, Communists from the east.

They don't want to be either of those! They just want to be Polish.
97   Booger   2018 Nov 22, 5:48am  

https://polanddaily.com/105-the-polish-government-officially-announces-that-it-won39t-sign-the-un-global-compact-for-migration.

THE POLISH GOVERNMENT OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCES THAT IT WON'T SIGN THE UN GLOBAL COMPACT FOR MIGRATION
98   Patrick   2018 Nov 22, 10:44am  

MegaForce says
And the Lithuanians


And the Swedes. And the Austrians. Forgot about them. Basically Poland got invaded from all sides.
99   Ceffer   2018 Nov 22, 10:47am  

German Sunni Muslims and Russian Shiite Muslims will overrun Poland fighting each other. There is no way out, Poland!

The Pope will just go Beauty Queen, stick his finger up his ass, and pray for World Peace.
102   HeadSet   2018 Dec 6, 7:44pm  

Basically Poland got invaded from all sides.

Yep, as had France, Germany, Italy, and especially Britain. Of course those countries, along with Poland, did there fair share of invading as well.
105   Booger   2018 Dec 18, 4:23pm  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6504471/France-sick-man-Europe-says-Polish-minister.html

France is now the sick man of Europe': Polish minister says Yellow Vest movement and Christmas Market terror attack make the country 'a drag on Europe'
107   Booger   2019 May 27, 2:21pm  

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/05/27/eu-elections-disaster-globalists-poland/

Providing analysis of the election results, political scientist Marcin Palade said he believes an LGBT march which took place in Gdansk on Saturday may have motivated many conservative-minded voters to turn out at the polls for PiS.
111   RWSGFY   2019 Aug 13, 9:21am  

OccasionalCortex says
Lithuania once ruled over Poland and modern day Belarus and even parts of Ukraine, I think


Most of Ukraine and parts of Russia (Smolensk region, IIRC). It was called The Grand Duchy of Lithuania then and at some point it was the biggest state in Europe.
112   Booger   2019 Aug 24, 10:25am  

Polish beer:
113   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Aug 24, 10:45am  

Finland's last government failed a few months ago over Health Care financing.

Bank of Finland's Governor declares current Bernie-Beloved system in financially unsustainable.


HELSINKI, March 15 (Reuters) - Finland’s social and healthcare systems still need reforming to ensure the sustainability of its public finances, Bank of Finland governor Olli Rehn said on Friday, a week after the failure of its health reform plan led the government to quit.

The coalition government resigned a month ahead of a mid-April general election, saying it could not deliver on the healthcare reform package, its key policy and widely seen as crucial to long-term fiscal security.

“The collapse of the structural reform of the social and healthcare (systems) is of course very troublesome from the point of view of fiscal sustainability,” Rehn told a news conference in Helsinki.

“The problem itself, (the need for) better and democratic healthcare as well as consolidation of public finances, has not disappeared.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/finland-government-cenbank-healthcare/update-1-healthcare-reform-collapse-troublesome-for-finlands-finances-central-bank-idUSL8N2122LI
116   Dholliday126   2019 Dec 15, 12:14pm  

The future is in eastern europe and Russia, western Europe is morally bankrupt and a dying society.

America is at a tipping point, but I think people are starting to wake up to the dystopia a progressive left world would bring. Hopefully, it turns around, but I think it's going to take a 4th turning to do so.
117   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2019 Dec 15, 1:09pm  

So all white?

tovarichpeter says

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/nordic-countries-united-states/490847/


A once powerful demographic group is losing ground in American politics. For most of the countrys history, white Christian Americathe cultural and political edifice built primarily by white Protestant Christians set the tone for our national conversations and shaped American ideals. But today, many white Christian Americans feel profoundly anxious as their numbers and influence are waning. The two primary branches of their family tree, white mainline and white evangelical Protestants, offer competing narratives about their decline. White mainline Protestants blame evangelical Protestants for turning off the younger generation with their anti-gay rhetoric and tendency to conflate Christianity with conservative, nationalist...


120   zzyzzx   2020 Jan 23, 8:16am  

Meanwhile in Poland:
122   AD   2020 Feb 8, 6:46pm  

Norway invests its money for social security and government pensions in the stock markets of the world.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_Pension_Fund_of_Norway

I realize the US Social Security Trust Fund only invests its surplus in US Treasury Notes. It has to along with the Federal Reserve to buy US debt like treasury notes. If not, then the US government could not effectively sustain government operations and debt service. If the demand drops by Social Security not buying US debt, then the interest rate for US debt like 10 year Treasury Note would increase significantly. This will make debt service even more difficult for the US government. Also it could have additional effect on raising mortgage rates.
123   Patrick   2020 Feb 8, 7:31pm  

AD says
Norway invests its money for social security and government pensions in the stock markets of the world.


While they probably average pretty good returns with that, they are also risking disaster if there is a global stock market crash.
125   AD   2020 Feb 8, 10:21pm  

Patrick says
AD says
Norway invests its money for social security and government pensions in the stock markets of the world.


While they probably average pretty good returns with that, they are also risking disaster if there is a global stock market crash.


Patrick, I would suspect Norway invests no more than 40% in stocks in its sovereign wealth fund.

That is why I like Vanguard's Lifestrategy Funds. Each is a fund of funds.

The Lifestrategy Conservative Growth Fund is 40% stocks and 60% investment grade bonds.
126   AD   2020 Feb 8, 10:39pm  

I like Vanguard Target Income Fund (VTINX). It has returned 5.4% annually since its inception in 2003. Its worst year was in 2008 when it returned -11%.

I think pension funds need to earn about 6% a year. Investing in VTINX gets you close to that.
127   AD   2020 Feb 8, 10:43pm  

Tenpoundbass says


Tenpoundbass, my wife grew up in the Soviet Union during the 1980s and lived in Kiev and Saint Petersburg.

She said Soviet stood for Socialist Workers State. Any one who was able to work and did not contribute to the works state was labeled essentially a traitor. They risked being sent to re-education and work camps in the far regions bordering the southern provinces and China, as well as northeastern Russia.
130   Onvacation   2020 May 3, 1:05pm  

Booger says

Wow 100 years! Too bad half of it was under the occupation of totalitarian powers.

I went to Poland way back in '96. I stopped in Krakow and realized why the Poles let the Germans take it without a fight in WW2; what a beautiful city!

I took a night train to Warsaw. Got off the train at dawn, walked around the soviet architecture, found breakfast, and jumped on a train to Berlin. Never made it to old town but Warsaw was not pretty.
131   Patrick   2020 May 3, 1:13pm  

Booger says


That's a good idea, and should be in Chinese as well.

There are lots of young Chinese who have literally never heard about the Tiananmen Square Massacre.

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