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Yo, Lips:In case you actually didn't realize you missed it...for about the thirteenth time, here it is again:

neplusultra57 says

Nothing about: "the health of governance: campaign finance reform, citizens united, lobbying dollars? You think he works to walk the influence out of politics? Banks? The NRA? Really?" Nothing like "gettin' shit done" but not specifying the shit. Details, details, we don't need no steenkeen details.

neplusultra57 says

the health of governance: campaign finance reform, citizens united, lobbying dollars

I addressed this. Hillary is no alternative, her actions contradict her words diametrically. Trump doesn't have enough of a record. His receipts are piddling compared to hers, and he's barely spending much money at all. He's actually being criticized for spending so little.

Look at what people Do, not what they Say.

That sucks for Hillary, since people only have Trump's words to judge him on, but if you want to campaign on prior experience, expect people to examine that experience.

BTW, she tried to convince everybody she was all Campaign Finance-y before running against Obama in 2008. She criticized him for not agreeing to limits, while not limiting herself.
http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/clinton-hits-obama-on-funds-008560

PROVINCETOWN, Mass. (AP) — It was a very busy, very lucrative weekend for Hillary Clinton in the summer playground of the East Coast's moneyed elite.

She brunched with wealthy backers at a seaside estate in Nantucket, snacking on shrimp dumplings and crab cakes. A few hours later, she and her husband dined with an intimate party of 30 at a secluded Martha's Vineyard estate (TL: with a Rothschild in attendance). And on Sunday afternoon, she joined the singer Cher at a "LGBT summer celebration" on the far reaches of Cape Cod.

By Sunday evening, Clinton had spoken to more than 2,200 campaign donors. But what she told the crowds remains a mystery.

Clinton has refused to open her fundraisers to journalists, reversing nearly a decade of greater transparency in presidential campaigns and leaving the public guessing at what she's saying to some of her most powerful supporters.

It's an approach that differs from the Democratic president she hopes to succeed. Since his 2008 campaign, President Barack Obama has allowed reporters traveling with him into the backyards and homes of wealthy donors to witness some of his remarks.

While reporters are escorted out of Obama's events before the start of the juicier Q&A, the president's approach offers at least a limited measure of accountability that some fear may disappear when Clinton or Republican nominee Donald Trump moves into the White House.

"Unfortunately these things have a tendency to ratchet down," said Larry Noble, the general counsel of the nonprofit Campaign Legal Center. "As the bar gets lower, it's hard to raise it again."

Clinton's campaign does release limited details about her events, naming the hosts, how many people attended and how much they gave. That's more than Trump, whose far fewer fundraisers are held entirely away from the media, with no details provided.

Even some Democrats privately acknowledge that Clinton's penchant for secrecy is a liability, given voters' continued doubts about her honesty.

While Clinton will occasionally take questions from reporters at campaign stops, she has not held a full-fledged news conference in more than 260 days — nearly nine months. Trump has held several news conferences.

Clinton refuses to release the transcripts of dozens of closed-door speeches she delivered to companies and business associations after leaving the State Department in 2013, despite significant bipartisan criticism.

And since announcing her presidential bid in April 2015, Clinton has held around 300 fundraising events. Only around five have been open to any news coverage.

Is it tomorrow yet?

thunderlips11 says

neplusultra57 says

the health of governance: campaign finance reform, citizens united, lobbying dollars

I addressed this.

Uh, no you didn't, you never do because the question was qua Trump. As a typical alt-right dodge you just return to Clinton. So in case the fourteenth time's a charm, here's what Rew asked of you, and, in case you're confused: Clinton referents will be a female pronoun while Trump referents will be a male pronoun. "His'' is a possessive form of that male pronoun, so, without further delay, for the fourteenth time:

Rew says

Hillary is no grand answer or fix here. Is Trump? Is that what his campaign is focused on? Restoring the health of governance: campaign finance reform, citizens united, lobbying dollars? You think he works to walk the influence out of politics? Banks? The NRA? Really?

neplusultra57 says

Uh, no you didn't, you never do because the question was qua Trump.

thunderlips11 says

Big Corporations and Wealthy Individuals donate to the Clinton Foundation simply because of their charity work. They don't expect anything in return.

thunderlips11 says

By Sunday evening, Clinton had spoken to more than 2,200 campaign donors. But what she told the crowds remains a mystery.

Clinton has refused to open her fundraisers to journalists, reversing nearly a decade of greater transparency in presidential campaigns and leaving the public guessing at what she's saying to some of her most powerful supporters.

thunderlips11 says

I addressed this. Hillary is no alternative, her actions contradict her words diametrically. Trump doesn't have enough of a record. His receipts are piddling compared to hers, and he's barely spending much money at all. He's actually being criticized for spending so little.

thunderlips11 says

BTW, she tried to convince everybody she was all Campaign Finance-y before running against Obama in 2008. She criticized him for not agreeing to limits, while not limiting herself.

http://www.politico.com/story/2008/02/clinton-hits-obama-on-funds-008560

thunderlips11 says

Here's the video of Elizabeth Warren discussing the meeting she had with Hillary, where the Law Professor clearly detailed to Hillary why the Bill was a Cock Suck for Banks, and Hillary claimed she would see it defeated.

Anybody who believes the Queen of Fundraising - her and her husband are much coddled by her own party for the amount of money they bring in under current Campaign Laws - is serious about Campaign Reform is thunderously naive, as her actions are, I repeat, diametrically contradicted by her actions.

And it's moot on practical political grounds, as Hillary is so fond of using as an excuse not to push for single payer. Barring a miracle, she'll be facing a resurgent Country Club Republican House that will never support it. We can expect more political grandstanding, with Mother Fracker half-heartedly proposing Campaign Reform, with the de-Trumped Republicans opposing it, both sides accusing each other in the usual culture war bullshit fashion.

Never a thing you can say about your glorious leader, eh? Try for sixteen?

It's creepy af to watch Clinton voters, accuse Clinton detractors of not considering what Trump might do as President, when Hillarys campaign slogan is "we must work together to stop Trump".

But I understand that words are more important than actions, and we have to first elect Clinton to see whats in her; after our terrorist enemies (saudi arabia), and 0.1% oppressors support her and shower her with money, she will come out the other side as president, ready to do a 180 and begin working for the people, against the wishes of her money masters. Which is precisely why those Great Americans the Kochs, support her.

errc says

she will come out the other side as president

"I being told that by a lot a really smart, wonderful, beautiful people, the best people, really rich fans of mine."