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Now I get it: Alt-Right:Disgust at the Idea of Egalitarianism


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2016 Aug 25, 9:23pm   10,436 views  35 comments

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Mathew Continetti is worth listening to: starts around 2:50 mark. "They do believe in hierarchies, some of them are racial, they also believe in sexual hierarchies, so a lot of them wave the banner of the men's rights movement, and so you start off from that political position and very quickly when you read the rhetoric it devolves into outright racism, outright misogyny....leads to visceral hatred of the mainstream conservative movement for embracing some version of egalitarianism, civil rights, equality of the sexes."

Egalitarianism, why does it hate freedom and why does it want to destroy the world. We ask you decide.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/alt-right-coming-online-chat-rooms-support-trump/

#orangedouchebag

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1   neplusultra57   2016 Aug 25, 9:34pm  

Sexual hierarchies lives matter!! Bannon, new propaganda minister to the orangedouchebag, wears the pants in his marriage:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/steve-bannon-domestic-violence-case-police-report-227432

Now all he needs to do is shoot an unarmed black man as he runs away and he's got a future in Trump's cabinet. Alt-right lives matter!!

2   just_passing_through   2016 Aug 25, 10:38pm  

Trigglypuff... Is that you?

3   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Aug 26, 5:10am  

Lol. Trump, Ailes, and Bannon have all been accused of rape, sexual harassment, or domestic abuse. Trump himself has been accused of rape twice. Somehow, they've decided to go after Clinton, because she defended a rapist in court. Without lawyers like Clinton, these guys would be screwed.

4   Tenpoundbass   2016 Aug 26, 6:57am  

We've got some fresh Liberal hater Bigot blood here I see. I'm going to enjoy diggiing up these threads and gloating November 9th.

5   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Aug 26, 7:51am  

Tenpoundbass says

fresh Liberal hater Bigot blood

Classic. Do you mean Trump types who are liberal haters or Liberals who are hater bigots?

YesYNot says

diggiing up these threads and gloating November 9th.

It's going to be hard digging up old threads after you shoot yourself. You should look into having a third party hold onto your guns for a week following the election.

6   mell   2016 Aug 26, 8:25am  

just_passing_through says

Trigglypuff... Is that you?

LOL.
A "once" accusation of "neck-and-wrist pulling" during a fight in 1996 (!) which was dropped due to "witness unavailability". OK, now we're grasping at every straw we can find here.

"A police report says that Bannon’s then-wife claimed he pulled at her neck and wrist during an altercation over their finances.
Trump campaign CEO once charged in domestic violence case
The 1996 charges were later dropped due to witness unavailability."

7   Rew   2016 Aug 26, 9:49am  

mell says

OK, now we're grasping at every straw we can find here.

I'm sorry, did you just accuse the dems of grasping at straws?

8   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Aug 26, 11:38am  

marcus says

Yes, but I don't like when these [SJWs and 3rd wave feminists] are equated to represent the left.

We do have to own up to the problems of swinging too far in that direction, as the republicans have to own up to the problem of racism in their party and the recent trend of racists coming out from under rocks to openly celebrate their ideas. U. Chicago recently made a move in the right direction there by rejecting the safe spaces concept.

Incidentally, I think Hillary would be considered a 2nd wave feminist. She's been accepting of the current round of feminism lately on the campaign trail, but hasn't focused on those ideas. She's been moving to the center as the Donald moves to the alt-right side.

9   neplusultra57   2016 Aug 27, 11:50am  

Another interesting point brought up in the segment is the demographic problem the alt-right poses for the GOP. The American population is outgrowing establishment GOP ideology, so keeping hold of young voters is harder and harder for Republicans. But the alt-right appears to be siphoning off what few younger Americans resist the tendency to lean left. Breaks my heart.

10   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Aug 27, 1:49pm  

The hillarious thing about the Alt-Right Speech was when Hillary quoted several Breitbart articles. Some written by a Jewish Greek Flaming Fag who brags about sucking Big Black Cock, and another by a Pakistani.

"Would you rather your kids had Feminism or Cancer."
*Huh* *oooh* *Fainting Couch* *Oh, dear, my* *Only horses sweat, men perspire and women glow, sir!*

11   Strategist   2016 Aug 27, 3:19pm  

jazz music says

So many of the clearly correct answers are coming from Liberal minds

Like mine.

12   lostand confused   2016 Aug 27, 6:05pm  

Funny thing is the left is starting to look like some fanatical cult that speaks in tongues. It doesn't matter what the issue is-they respond in some cultish language and think they are oh so superior-LOL!!

13   lostand confused   2016 Aug 27, 8:16pm  

Modern day leftie vs modern day rightie. The one on the left is the leftie and the one on the right the normal-but in their twisted demented world-they are always right.

www.youtube.com/embed/ZIpkdusnIkE

15   Bellingham Bill   2016 Aug 28, 11:40am  

I've been DYING to see a bunker take on Trump, this is my first, and 1 minute in it's good!

16   neplusultra57   2016 Aug 28, 1:54pm  

"They are mostly white, mostly male middle-American radicals, who are unapologetically embracing a new identity politics that prioritises the interests of their own demographic."

"includes a preference for homogeneity over diversity, for stability over change, and for hierarchy and order over radical egalitarianism. Their instinctive wariness of the foreign and the unfamiliar is an instinct that we all share – an evolutionary safeguard against excessive, potentially perilous curiosity"

"natural conservatives have other concerns: chiefly, the preservation of their own tribe and its culture."

"You’ll often encounter doomsday rhetoric in alt-right online communities: that’s because many of them instinctively feel that once large enough and ethnically distinct enough groups are brought together, they will inevitably come to blows. In short, they doubt that full “integration” is ever possible."

"The alt-right’s intellectuals would also argue that culture is inseparable from race. The alt-right believe that some degree of separation between peoples is necessary for a culture to be preserved. A Mosque next to an English street full of houses bearing the flag of St. George, according to alt-righters, is neither an English street nor a Muslim street — separation is necessary for distinctiveness."

"concerns from white voters that they’re going to go extinct" (tee hee, I like that one)

17   neplusultra57   2016 Aug 28, 2:04pm  

HEY YOU says

www.youtube.com/embed/545aq1V1upM

"Don't worry, you can still use Ann's book as kindling." Priceless!

18   Entitlemented   2016 Aug 28, 10:13pm  

Republicans invented Egalitarianism:

Classical republicanism, also known as civic humanism,[1] is a form of republicanism developed in the Renaissance inspired by the governmental forms and writings of classical antiquity, especially such classical writers as Aristotle, Polybius, and Cicero. Classical republicanism is built around concepts such as civil society, civic virtue and mixed government.

19   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2016 Aug 29, 4:34am  

jazz music says

Where are those Republicans today?

Resting on their laurels bragging about something that their party did over 150 years ago.

20   Allah the devil   2016 Aug 29, 1:43pm  

jazz music says

I love your name too.

Hey Shakespeare, like my new avatar?

21   neplusultra57   2016 Sep 3, 12:00pm  

rando says

Trump is merely a reaction to the excesses of the left.

LOL. ALL the Trump-based hatred of establishment Republican neo-conservatism is due to leftist excess? Free trade is leftist excess? Interventionist nation building is leftist excess? Borrow and spend deficit accounting is leftist excess? Who knew?

22   Patrick   2016 Sep 3, 12:17pm  

neplusultra57 says

Trump-based hatred of establishment Republican neo-conservatism

I don't see that "hatred" you're referring to.

Both the neo-conservatives and Trump supporters are opposed to the "New Left": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left

Certainly Trump has big differences with the Republican establishment, but that has little to do with Trump's base of support.

23   neplusultra57   2016 Sep 3, 3:10pm  

rando says

Certainly Trump has big differences with the Republican establishment, but that has little to do with Trump's base of support.

I just don't feature how you can say that. Even on this forum, almost every Trump supporter bashes the hell out of Bush, the Iraq war, free trade, open borders, corporatism: all the hallmarks of establishment Republicans. Trumps base ranges from the birther, black helicopter watching tin-foil hat wearing doomsday-prepper of the under-educated all the way up to what we see here, namely the anti-establishment libertarian eliminationist homogenizers. You think that what unifies them is solely the cultural "extremism" of Trigglypuff and BLM? I think it's the economics of white America sliding down the ladder closer by a few rungs to the brown and black people. The culture wars are what politicians on the right use to rally their base. The point is what good is egalitarianism if the whites can't thrive under it?

24   Bellingham Bill   2016 Sep 4, 9:43am  

marcus says

But if you live in a homogenous (monochrome) part of the country, and have lived a sheltered life, I guess it's frightening for some.

these are people who are scared by taco trucks apparently.

25   mell   2016 Sep 4, 9:51am  

neplusultra57 says

I think it's just an excuse for making anything sayable.

Anything IS 'sayable' as long as it originates from you (copyright) and is not child porn or a direct threat/call to violence against someone else. By insinuating that one may need an excuse to voice their opinion/ideology you mark yourself as the authoritarian cultural-marxist (in line with Trigglypuff and BLM) in the room who disrespects free speech. Pretty ironic if you rail against Trump at the same time for having authoritarian tendencies.

26   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Sep 4, 10:25am  

"I'm not working class, so I think working class people are doing dandy even though all evidence suggests they are losing ground. Any complaints they have must be because of Racism. Poor Whites are blamed for every failing in the country, I'm shocked that they are sick of the blame game."

I can't wait for H-1B visas to be widespread for Public School Teachers. It's about time Teachers upped their game and had some global competition.

27   MMR   2016 Sep 4, 1:03pm  

neplusultra57 says

They are mostly white, mostly male middle-American radicals, who are unapologetically embracing a new identity politics that prioritises the interests of their own demographic."

"includes a preference for homogeneity over diversity, for stability over change, and for hierarchy and order over radical egalitarianism. Their instinctive wariness of the foreign and the unfamiliar is an instinct that we all share – an evolutionary safeguard against excessive, potentially perilous curiosity

Are you talking about whites or Muslims. I guess those are the people we need to subject to the "right to stay" exam in an effort to be fair to refugee Muslims who are much better

28   neplusultra57   2016 Sep 4, 3:20pm  

MMR says

neplusultra57 says

They are mostly white, mostly male middle-American radicals, who are unapologetically embracing a new identity politics that prioritises the interests of their own demographic."

"includes a preference for homogeneity over diversity, for stability over change, and for hierarchy and order over radical egalitarianism. Their instinctive wariness of the foreign and the unfamiliar is an instinct that we all share – an evolutionary safeguard against excessive, potentially perilous curiosity

Are you talking about whites or Muslims. I guess those are the people we need to subject to the "right to stay" exam in an effort to be fair to refugee Muslims who are much better

What a thoroughly excellent question! I'm quoting straight from the alt-right's bible scripture and I'm glad you grasp the irony. Thank you for bringing it up. I've said again and again that Patnet's Strumpets' constant drumbeat of examples of what's wrong with America all carry the anti-egalitarian/racist subtext of the Breitbart cesspool. For your edification: http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/03/29/an-establishment-conservatives-guide-to-the-alt-right/

29   neplusultra57   2016 Sep 4, 3:28pm  

thunderlips11 says

"I'm not> white working class, so I think non-white working class people are doing dandy better than they deserve even though all evidence suggests they are losing ground just the same as me. Any complaints they have must be because of Racism Reverse Racism. Poor Whites Real Americans are blamed for every failing in the country, I'm shocked that they are sick of the blame game haven't seceded from this once glorious country."

30   neplusultra57   2016 Sep 4, 3:35pm  

mell says

neplusultra57 says

I think it's just an excuse for making anything sayable.

Anything IS 'sayable' as long as it originates from you (copyright) and is not child porn or a direct threat/call to violence against someone else. By insinuating that one may need an excuse to voice their opinion/ideology you mark yourself as the authoritarian cultural-marxist (in line with Trigglypuff and BLM) in the room who disrespects free speech.

Can you show a single Patnet Strumpet who called Kaepernick's protest anything but unAmerican? The libertarians didn't come to his side. The alt-righters didn't. Lips' subtext was one of race traitor.

The #orangedouchebag is running on the claim that America is falling apart. When a black man says the same thing he gets put down as a mongrel hater of freedom. You guys are a piece of work.

31   neplusultra57   2016 Sep 4, 3:41pm  

thunderlips11 says

I can't wait for H-1B visas to be widespread for Public School Teachers. It's about time Teachers upped their game and had some global competition.

Close the borders to mitigate immigrant pressure on the value of labor, but when it comes to teachers, who obviously aren't real Americans, we need to use immigration to force down the value of their labor. Makes perfect sense to an alt-right conservative.

32   mell   2016 Sep 4, 4:15pm  

neplusultra57 says

Close the borders to mitigate immigrant pressure on the value of labor, but when it comes to teachers, who obviously aren't real Americans, we need to use immigration to force down the value of their labor. Makes perfect sense to an alt-right conservative.

He was being ironic or facetious.

neplusultra57 says

Can you show a single Patnet Strumpet who called Kaepernick's protest anything but unAmerican? The libertarians didn't come to his side. The alt-righters didn't. Lips' subtext was one of race traitor.

Kaepernick has the constitutional right to not support the anthem/flag, un-American or not. And I think it would be silly for him to be officially penalized. However the NFL is a private org and can deal with it however they see fit, as well as it is the police's right NOT to volunteer due to his behavior. I haven't seen anybody advocating for legal/criminal consequences for Kaepernick, and that's where most of the right currently differentiates themselves from the left, who think they are morally entitled to counter any opinion/behavior that they don't saction with legal/governmental oppression and use/show of force.

33   justme   2016 Sep 4, 6:29pm  

mell says

However the NFL is a private org and can deal with it however they see fit,

NFL is a governement-sanctioned monopoly. That ought to put some constraints on what they can and cannot do. For example, I think it means that it should give their employees the same right to free speech as citizens have in public spaces, per our constitution.

neplusultra57 says

Can you show a single Patnet Strumpet who called Kaepernick's protest anything but unAmerican? The libertarians didn't come to his side.

I'll support Kapernicks's right not to stand for the national anthem. It is un-American not to allow people to protest what is American. That's the whole point of having freedoms.

By the way, did anyone read the Ann Killion column on the topic? I have often thought that the national anthem belongs only at INTERNATIONAL sporting events, and as it turns out, there is now at least ONE more person that agrees with me.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/49ers/article/Is-the-national-anthem-even-necessary-9191779.php

QUOTE:
Though it seems self-evident that being an American absolutely means having the right to express yourself in a form of protest, this has gotten ugly — and I have an idea for how to solve this issue:

Stop playing the national anthem before professional sporting events.

Why do we do this, anyway? It’s an almost 100-year-old tradition, that, lore has it, began with a band playing during the seventh inning of the 1918 World Series. That was weeks before the horror of World War I ended, and the country was in shock, with more than 100,000 young men killed in 17 months.
ENDQUOTE

There is more. Read the whole column, It is good. I'm no big fan of Ann Killion regarding other matters, especially how she handles athletes that have been falsely accused of rape, but this time she hit the nail on the head.

34   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Sep 4, 10:00pm  

neplusultra57 says

Close the borders to mitigate immigrant pressure on the value of labor, but when it comes to teachers, who obviously aren't real Americans, we need to use immigration to force down the value of their labor. Makes perfect sense to an alt-right conservative.

You completely missed the sarcasm inherent in the post.

35   neplusultra57   2016 Sep 5, 8:19am  

mell says

neplusultra57 says

Close the borders to mitigate immigrant pressure on the value of labor, but when it comes to teachers, who obviously aren't real Americans, we need to use immigration to force down the value of their labor. Makes perfect sense to an alt-right conservative.

He was being ironic or facetious.

No, he's spouting alt-right dogma. As the vast majority of his posts do.

thunderlips11 says

neplusultra57 says

Close the borders to mitigate immigrant pressure on the value of labor, but when it comes to teachers, who obviously aren't real Americans, we need to use immigration to force down the value of their labor. Makes perfect sense to an alt-right conservative.

You completely missed the sarcasm inherent in the post.

No, you just lost control of subtext. You can't make 95% of your posts about how white victimhood (today's stump: burning man race traitors) without it being "about" white victimhood when you sacrifice your signature mechanism of "working class" victimhood in order to punish institutional egalitarianism. You can't help stumping for the alt-right because it summarizes your conservatism. That's all. So, you want to whiten-up public education? Not culturally good enough for you?

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