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Please help prevent the patrick.net wikipedia page from being deleted


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2016 Aug 28, 11:27am   19,982 views  85 comments

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I created a wikipedia page on patrick.net, here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick.net

It was instantly deleted as "not notable". Ugh, doesn't make you want to add anything to wikipedia, does it? But then it re-appeared a day later, with a request for discussion, here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Patrick.net

Please comment on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Patrick.net

Thanks!

#wikipedia

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83   curious2   2016 Sep 11, 4:49pm  

rando says

those terms and many others are routinely used to shut down legitimate debate by the guardians of political correctness

You have a point there, and I have witnessed the sometimes debilitating effects. That's why I don't focus on indivual comments or posts. I look at the pattern, and what inferences the pattern supports. TOB is a Nazi, supports Hitler and calls him "a genius," and advocates civil war, as does his alter ego rootvg, who bragged his house was "well fortified" and looked forward to bringing a concealed weapon to San Francisco. The fact he says openly he hopes we all die is only one more data point confirming that pattern. Arguing with such people is a waste of time. The world can always crank out morons faster than you can type. The question is, do you want to spend your life promoting them?

Like creationists pushing "intelligent design," Nazis look for ways to wedge their way into respectability. We've seen a few attempts here already, e.g. TWP, and sadly they seem to fool initially some software engineers, who read literally but don't always recognize the intent behind the words.

84   Patrick   2016 Sep 11, 5:12pm  

curious2 says

The question is, do you want to spend your life promoting them?

I don't see the site as promoting them, but merely as not censoring them.

curious2 says

TOB is a Nazi, supports Hitler and calls him "a genius," and advocates civil war, as does his alter ego rootvg

I can't see any evidence on the server side that those two are the same person. They use different IP addresses at least.

curious2 says

Arguing with such people is a waste of time.

OK, so don't argue with him. Put him on ignore. But don't ask me to prevent other people from hearing what he has to say, no matter how odious.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons,
they are vexations to the spirit.

85   curious2   2016 Sep 11, 5:20pm  

rando says

But don't ask me to prevent other people from hearing what he has to say, no matter how odious.

Fair enough, but I think his vandalism of your home page and your Wikipedia article is a principal reason why the latter got deleted. Wikipedia speedily deletes vandals, with good reason. You can choose to give them a platform if you want, but you shouldn't expect everyone to have the same priorities.

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