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They weren't polls at all. It was misinformation designed to frustrate the vote. Make Trump voters seem like it was futile to vote.

Rew says

I love this guy's quotes from tonight on 538:

"HARRY ENTEN 12:14 AM

Trump has to be one of the oddest vehicles to prove certain theories about presidential elections incorrect. I had long thought that Democrats didn’t have a blue wall in the Electoral College. I had long thought that demographics weren’t destiny. Yet I didn’t think Trump would be the person to disprove these theories."

You can't take human actions as a data set, and extrapolate their future actions by plotting them on a chart

We're not so easily solved creatures.

We gamblers know the word well: Unpredictable

Trump will win Wisconsin 100%.

He's very close to winning Michigan (16 electoral college votes) and is hyper-competitive in deep blue Pennsylvania.

This is surreal.

Michael Moore warned his fellow libbies this was going to happen and they laughed in their Ivory Towers.

Oh, how they laughed.

The sad part is that the pollsters did very little to hide the fact...

Tenpoundbass says

They weren't polls at all. It was misinformation designed to frustrate the vote. Make Trump voters seem like it was futile to vote.

2. The pollsters were simply lying.

They were probably just seeing the world through their lens. The media saw a Trump candidacy as a joke. They actually laughed about it. They just assumed that their thinking was what everyone was thinking. New York Magazine already published their next issue with the cover:

Realizing despite all of this I'm still in California and this passed. Hopefully Donald puts a constructionist on the Supreme Court and there is a battle about this:

http://stoptheammograb.com/the-issue/

I think additionally you can own no more than 50 rounds of ammo per caliber. I don't currently own a gun but am planning on it due to all the releases from prison around here.

rando says

So it does seem to actually be true that either:

1. People were just not willing to tell pollsters their true level of support for Trump because of fear of the PC police.
2. The pollsters were simply lying.

3. Pollsters are incompetent

Fucking the Sanders supporters cost the democrats this election.

www.youtube.com/embed/OAYZIqKwLE4

Listen and learn, DNC. If you want Trump to be a one-term president, get your shit together and reform the party. This entire election has been a vote of no confidence in both major party's establishments. Reform or lose the next election.

You know what the people want. Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein, Elizabeth Warren. Embrace the policies of these people or lose to Trump again. And forget about Hillary. We're not going to accept her. You want a woman president? You got two great choices: Warren and Stein.

So buy ammo now?

FP says

Pollsters are incompetent

I disagree. I knew this girl who worked the poll. She was incredibly talented.

Dan8267 says

I knew this girl who worked the poll. She was incredibly talented.

You mean pole.

I stand erected.

Where *am* I?

Van Jones just pulled out the race card on CNN.

What a dick.

According to TV news, Trump ahead by 15 votes in NH, and barley ahead in MI and PA.
Clinton ahead in Maine, but they did not give the split for the vote, so I have no idea if that is going to happen (presumably they have not called Maine because of this).
Trump ahead in AZ
Clinton ahead in MN
No mention of Alaska, but add Alaska and AZ to Trump's tally (pretty much a given) and I think he still needs to win something else, even if it's only part of Maine.

If Obama had only prosecuted the top 100 bankster criminals, and managed to convict HALF of them, even Hillary would have won. Thanks, Obama!

Wisconsin is in the bag and Trump is pulling ahead in PA. Futures down 700 pts. Waiting for the official call.

Wisconsin is 4.5% ahead with 90% in.

All her base are belong to Trump
Hillary has no chance to survive make her time.

He's been slammin the white dress chick to his right for the past 10 months.
She got retribution tonite. Van could not contain himself...

freespeechforever says

Van Jones just pulled out the race card on CNN.

What a dick.

Obama got a whole lotta egg on his face

All for Hillary

Yuck

Will Hillary accept the election results?

Very dangerous

zzyzzx - Trump is at 238.

He'll be at 248 with Wisconsin.

Add 11 more electoral college votes with AZ and he's at 259.

Add 6 more for Utah and he's at 265.

All he needs then is ONE of New Hampshire, Alaska, Michigan, Pennsylvania and he's there.

justme says

Where *am* I?

spirits are high

Hey Ryan... Hey McConnell... Hey Lindsay Graham...

www.youtube.com/embed/6WSuhvTozLc

Bow DOWN to the MASTER, Ryan! POTUS is always leader of his party.

Boe Down Suckah, Bow Down to the Trump Sho'nuff

Hillary's lead in MN down.
Trumps lead in AZ up slightly.
Trump still up by 1.5% in Michigan.
PA and NH too close to call
Alaska and Maine being ignored by TV news.

freespeechforever says

Trump is at 238.

Wisconsin and Utah called for Trump a while ago.

For my part, I was mostly fucking, drinking, and commiserating with some neighbors. Now thinking about buying the inevitable dip tomorrow. Mostly, my life will not change and I presume that I'll get a big tax break, so there is that. The comedy shows should be good for a while. It should also be real interesting watching the Republicans fight (work together) over the direction of the country.

MSNBC coverage of the election results.

www.youtube.com/embed/DoWtHqmITOM

CNN
www.youtube.com/embed/cTwZZz0HV8I

What's going through Trump's head right now?

1) Holy shit! What have I done?
2) Yeah... I'm the greatest...
3) Hillary and Barak promised this would never happen!
4) I feel the enormity of what has happened and I must dedicate myself fully to the job at hand.

I suspect 1 and 2.

turtledove says

What's going through Trump's head right now?

5) W could do it, I should be OK

My theory is that he did this to build his brand and fucked up and won.

indigenous says

So buy ammo now?

Meh ... if you feel compelled to. The stupid law will cause a huge spike in prices right now. The eventually it will mellow.

turtledove says

2. The pollsters were simply lying.

No no no. Their polling data was pretty good. It's a mix right now. Trump was just an odd candidate no one could predict. She is over performing in some states and under performing in others.

indigenous says

My theory is that he did this to build his brand and fucked up and won.

www.youtube.com/embed/biMXbtMp-GQ

I swear to god this is CNN's international site a few moments ago...check the date/time in the file name.

You'd never know Trump won the election!!!

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

You'd never know Trump won the election!!!

He hasn't ... yet ... yet.

rando says

So it does seem to actually be true that either:

1. People were just not willing to tell pollsters their true level of support for Trump because of fear of the PC police.

2. The pollsters were simply lying.

OR they were not that far off. Hillary still probably wins the popular vote by a percent or two.

As for the swing states ? There are a lot of possible answers. How many used Diebold machines ? There's also the isue of how many people vote. Maybe the people that were hot to trot for Trump actually got out and voted in higher percentage than the Hillary voters.

Dan8267 says

I suspect 1 and 2.

Of course you do. Have some faith, Tyrone.

YesYNot says

The comedy shows should be good for a while. It should also be real interesting watching the Republicans fight (work together) over the direction of the country.

Maybe the establishment Repubs and Dems get together and make stuff happen? Who knows.

The one we have now is massive uncertainty ... and that is what the markets and balance of powers hate most.