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444   anonymous   2016 Nov 8, 9:12pm  

538 - 84% for Trump

445   Rew   2016 Nov 8, 9:12pm  

turtledove says

Self serving and stupid?

Gloat and preen like a mo fo. Bitches and champagne. Then he is gonna pee his pants.

446   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 8, 9:13pm  

Don't buy anything for a long time.

This isn't an algorithm fat-finger; it's a fat middle finger to the global establishment by the American Middle Class.

It's literally Brexit x 100.

The break-up (accelerated, as it was happening anyways) of the European Union is on warp speed, now, also.

447   Rew   2016 Nov 8, 9:15pm  

freespeechforever says

It's literally Brexit x 100.

The break-up (accelerated, as it was happening anyways) of the European Union is on warp speed, now, also.

This seriously bodes for nation conflicts and war ... you know this, right? ;)

448   anonymous   2016 Nov 8, 9:15pm  

Fox was saying how Minnesota is looking good for Trump, but Hillary is definitely ahead according to their map online. Do they expect rural votes to come in later?

449   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 8, 9:16pm  

Thank You to all Patnetters and the Man Patrick himself.

Thank You BIG LEAGUE to Mr. Julian Assange, I named my boy after you (and Julian Cope) and you did not disappoint. In fact you succeeded. May you be pardoned ASAP. He's been sitting in a tiny room for years upon years. "Many Bothans died to bring you this information".

It took a decendant of Disobedient Celts mixed with Taiwanese Pirates to do all this.

Also to James O'Keefe III

Thank you UKIP and Mr. Nigel Farage, for the Inspiration.

Thank you Sargon of Akkad, Cernovich, Scott Adams.

#MAGA #Brexit #AllPowerToTheDeplorables

450   Dan8267   2016 Nov 8, 9:17pm  

turtledove says

So what's your bet on Trump's first move? Self serving and stupid? Or right to work on actual issues?

The senate is about split down the middle. The house is going Republican. This is bad because it means that Democrats can't block Trump's agenda no matter how crazy. It's up to the Republicans to be the voice of reason. Good luck with that.

The Republican establishment hates Trump, and now they are either going to have to obstruct his policies like he was a black Democrat, or they will have to own his policies, and that's going to cost them financially if Trump at all follows through on his campaign promises, which is a huge IF.

Trump wasn't supporting the economic agenda of the RNC during his campaign. Unless he changes his tune, the Republican senators and representatives will either have to fight their own president or go against the financial interests of their cronies. Image if Trump actually did something on immigration. Farm profits would plummet. Image if Trump actually did something on trade. Corporate profits would plummet.

It's going to be interesting to see the GOP squirm over the next four years.

Still, it would have been better if the Democrats took both houses at least for Trump's first two years.

451   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 8, 9:18pm  

Rew - no.

Hillary was a much bigger risk for global conflict than Trump.

For all of Trump's flaws, he's much less ideological and far more pragmatic than Hillary and her merry band of neocons.

Hillary actually, out loud, proposed a no-fly (against Russian aircraft) zone in Syria.

452   indigenous   2016 Nov 8, 9:19pm  

The fact is that he is going to change a lot less than he promised.

In the economy he will have no effect

He will not build a wall as it is a moot point.

Where he could be useful is to repeal Dodd Frank and Obama Care

Most of all a much lower risk for war.

453   Rew   2016 Nov 8, 9:20pm  

Dan8267 says

It's up to the Republicans to be the voice of reason. Good luck with that.

(crossing self)

freespeechforever says

Hillary was a much bigger risk for global conflict than Trump.

No. Let's be correct here. She was the standard expected conflict. You now have a wild card. Ask the higher military if they like wild card over known enemy. I shit you not, I worry for my sons now. They are in the draft target for something which could be horrible.

454   Rew   2016 Nov 8, 9:20pm  

indigenous says

The fact is that he is going to change a lot less than he promised.

In the economy he will have no effect

He will not build a wall as it is a moot point.

Where he could be useful is to repeal Dodd Frank and Obama Care

Most of all a much lower risk for war.

I agree with all except the last. His mouth is gonna write check we cannot cash. We are about to get walked over in foreign policy. You think Clinton was bad ... watch.

455   anonymous   2016 Nov 8, 9:20pm  

Dan8267 says

This is bad because it means that Democrats can't block Trump's agenda no matter how crazy.

Come on, bro...this isn't accurate. It's not like Trump sets the laws. The biggest concern I have is Trump being the 5 star general.

456   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 8, 9:21pm  

freespeechforever says

Hillary actually, out loud, proposed a no-fly (against Russian aircraft) zone in Syria.

And steadfastly refused to answer if she'd shoot down a Russian Plane, on national TV.

One thing to do it to a Qaddafyi, but you don't be coy like that with a 1000s of nuclear warhead armed nation.

457   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 8, 9:21pm  

Wisconsin should be called by 12:45.

Even w/out Michigan, that will put Trump @ 249 electoral college votes, which takes him over 270 with addition of New Hampshire, Arizona, Iowa, etc.

458   indigenous   2016 Nov 8, 9:21pm  

Rew says

I agree with all except the last. His mouth is gonna write check we cannot cash. We are about to get walked over in foreign policy. You think Clinton was bad ... watch.

He does not appear to be a neocon. But don't know for sure

459   Tenpoundbass   2016 Nov 8, 9:21pm  

Where's HydroCabron?

460   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 8, 9:22pm  

Where's neplusultra57?

461   indigenous   2016 Nov 8, 9:23pm  

Where is CIC?

462   missing   2016 Nov 8, 9:23pm  

After this election the Democratic party leadership must resign en mass! What a failure! Even if Clinton squeaks in.

463   Y   2016 Nov 8, 9:23pm  

Where is puerto rico?

464   anonymous   2016 Nov 8, 9:23pm  

465   Dan8267   2016 Nov 8, 9:23pm  

just any guy says

It's not like Trump sets the laws.

No. However, the veto power of the president is very strong when the two houses are close to evenly split. And the president does carry weight in pushing the party's platform.

I don't see Trump as the type of person who will submit to the will of other republicans. His ego won't allow it.

466   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 8, 9:23pm  

Trump is pulling further ahead in PENNSYLVANIA WITH 92% OF THE VOTE IN.

This is nothing short of a historic, wave (nay, TSUNAMI) election.

Not only is Trump getting Reagan Democrats en masse, but he's actually getting white OBAMA VOTERS.

This is a BLOOD-BATH FOR DEMOCRATS & HILLARY.

467   turtledove   2016 Nov 8, 9:24pm  

Clinton gets NV

468   Dan8267   2016 Nov 8, 9:24pm  

FP says

After this election the Democratic party leadership must resign en mass! What a failure! Even if Clinton squeaks in.

She has as much chance of squeaking in as Bill had of getting that dress dry cleaned.

469   Rew   2016 Nov 8, 9:25pm  

Dan8267 says

Bill had of getting that dress dry cleaned.

hahahahahahaha

470   anonymous   2016 Nov 8, 9:25pm  

YesYNot says

Turd sandwich. It's what's for dinner.

Nah it looks like she's going to lose

471   SoTex   2016 Nov 8, 9:25pm  

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Where's neplusultra57?

Triggered

472   Rew   2016 Nov 8, 9:26pm  

I love this guy's quotes from tonight on 538:

"HARRY ENTEN 12:14 AM
Trump has to be one of the oddest vehicles to prove certain theories about presidential elections incorrect. I had long thought that Democrats didn’t have a blue wall in the Electoral College. I had long thought that demographics weren’t destiny. Yet I didn’t think Trump would be the person to disprove these theories."

473   freespeechforever   2016 Nov 8, 9:27pm  

They should call Wisconsin now.

It's gone Trump and she can't get it back.

474   Dan8267   2016 Nov 8, 9:27pm  

OK, Hillary can technically win if she wins all three of PA, WI, and MI, but that's highly unlikely.

475   indigenous   2016 Nov 8, 9:28pm  

WTF is up with the polling that misled on this?

476   Y   2016 Nov 8, 9:29pm  

wolf keeps going back to nevada cause he likes to see a blue win...

477   indigenous   2016 Nov 8, 9:30pm  

Massachusetts passed legal dope

478   junkmail   2016 Nov 8, 9:31pm  

indigenous says

WTF is up with the polling that misled on this?

What dipshit believed the polls?

479   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 8, 9:32pm  

Rockin' out to the Black Bear right now!!!
www.youtube.com/embed/7vRtlhOGsOA

480   indigenous   2016 Nov 8, 9:34pm  

junkmail says

What dipshit believed the polls?

Then what about the bookies?

481   turtledove   2016 Nov 8, 9:34pm  

My guess, quietly lurking.

482   Patrick   2016 Nov 8, 9:34pm  

indigenous says

WTF is up with the polling that misled on this?

So it does seem to actually be true that either:

1. People were just not willing to tell pollsters their true level of support for Trump because of fear of the PC police.
2. The pollsters were simply lying.

483   Peter P   2016 Nov 8, 9:36pm  

Polls are narrative devices. They are used to influence and not inform.

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