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Where is CIC?

After this election the Democratic party leadership must resign en mass! What a failure! Even if Clinton squeaks in.

Where is puerto rico?

just any guy says

It's not like Trump sets the laws.

No. However, the veto power of the president is very strong when the two houses are close to evenly split. And the president does carry weight in pushing the party's platform.

I don't see Trump as the type of person who will submit to the will of other republicans. His ego won't allow it.

Trump is pulling further ahead in PENNSYLVANIA WITH 92% OF THE VOTE IN.

This is nothing short of a historic, wave (nay, TSUNAMI) election.

Not only is Trump getting Reagan Democrats en masse, but he's actually getting white OBAMA VOTERS.

This is a BLOOD-BATH FOR DEMOCRATS & HILLARY.

Clinton gets NV

FP says

After this election the Democratic party leadership must resign en mass! What a failure! Even if Clinton squeaks in.

She has as much chance of squeaking in as Bill had of getting that dress dry cleaned.

Dan8267 says

Bill had of getting that dress dry cleaned.

hahahahahahaha

YesYNot says

Turd sandwich. It's what's for dinner.

Nah it looks like she's going to lose

Thunderlips Russian Agent 0069 says

Where's neplusultra57?

Triggered

I love this guy's quotes from tonight on 538:

"HARRY ENTEN 12:14 AM
Trump has to be one of the oddest vehicles to prove certain theories about presidential elections incorrect. I had long thought that Democrats didn’t have a blue wall in the Electoral College. I had long thought that demographics weren’t destiny. Yet I didn’t think Trump would be the person to disprove these theories."

They should call Wisconsin now.

It's gone Trump and she can't get it back.

OK, Hillary can technically win if she wins all three of PA, WI, and MI, but that's highly unlikely.

WTF is up with the polling that misled on this?

wolf keeps going back to nevada cause he likes to see a blue win...

Massachusetts passed legal dope

indigenous says

WTF is up with the polling that misled on this?

What dipshit believed the polls?

Rockin' out to the Black Bear right now!!!
www.youtube.com/embed/7vRtlhOGsOA

junkmail says

What dipshit believed the polls?

Then what about the bookies?

My guess, quietly lurking.

indigenous says

WTF is up with the polling that misled on this?

So it does seem to actually be true that either:

1. People were just not willing to tell pollsters their true level of support for Trump because of fear of the PC police.
2. The pollsters were simply lying.

Polls are narrative devices. They are used to influence and not inform.

They weren't polls at all. It was misinformation designed to frustrate the vote. Make Trump voters seem like it was futile to vote.

Rew says

I love this guy's quotes from tonight on 538:

"HARRY ENTEN 12:14 AM

Trump has to be one of the oddest vehicles to prove certain theories about presidential elections incorrect. I had long thought that Democrats didn’t have a blue wall in the Electoral College. I had long thought that demographics weren’t destiny. Yet I didn’t think Trump would be the person to disprove these theories."

You can't take human actions as a data set, and extrapolate their future actions by plotting them on a chart

We're not so easily solved creatures.

We gamblers know the word well: Unpredictable

Trump will win Wisconsin 100%.

He's very close to winning Michigan (16 electoral college votes) and is hyper-competitive in deep blue Pennsylvania.

This is surreal.

Michael Moore warned his fellow libbies this was going to happen and they laughed in their Ivory Towers.

Oh, how they laughed.

The sad part is that the pollsters did very little to hide the fact...

Tenpoundbass says

They weren't polls at all. It was misinformation designed to frustrate the vote. Make Trump voters seem like it was futile to vote.

2. The pollsters were simply lying.

They were probably just seeing the world through their lens. The media saw a Trump candidacy as a joke. They actually laughed about it. They just assumed that their thinking was what everyone was thinking. New York Magazine already published their next issue with the cover:

Realizing despite all of this I'm still in California and this passed. Hopefully Donald puts a constructionist on the Supreme Court and there is a battle about this:

http://stoptheammograb.com/the-issue/

I think additionally you can own no more than 50 rounds of ammo per caliber. I don't currently own a gun but am planning on it due to all the releases from prison around here.

rando says

So it does seem to actually be true that either:

1. People were just not willing to tell pollsters their true level of support for Trump because of fear of the PC police.
2. The pollsters were simply lying.

3. Pollsters are incompetent

Fucking the Sanders supporters cost the democrats this election.

www.youtube.com/embed/OAYZIqKwLE4

Listen and learn, DNC. If you want Trump to be a one-term president, get your shit together and reform the party. This entire election has been a vote of no confidence in both major party's establishments. Reform or lose the next election.

You know what the people want. Bernie Sanders, Jill Stein, Elizabeth Warren. Embrace the policies of these people or lose to Trump again. And forget about Hillary. We're not going to accept her. You want a woman president? You got two great choices: Warren and Stein.

So buy ammo now?

FP says

Pollsters are incompetent

I disagree. I knew this girl who worked the poll. She was incredibly talented.

Dan8267 says

I knew this girl who worked the poll. She was incredibly talented.

You mean pole.

I stand erected.

Where *am* I?

Van Jones just pulled out the race card on CNN.

What a dick.

According to TV news, Trump ahead by 15 votes in NH, and barley ahead in MI and PA.
Clinton ahead in Maine, but they did not give the split for the vote, so I have no idea if that is going to happen (presumably they have not called Maine because of this).
Trump ahead in AZ
Clinton ahead in MN
No mention of Alaska, but add Alaska and AZ to Trump's tally (pretty much a given) and I think he still needs to win something else, even if it's only part of Maine.

If Obama had only prosecuted the top 100 bankster criminals, and managed to convict HALF of them, even Hillary would have won. Thanks, Obama!

Wisconsin is in the bag and Trump is pulling ahead in PA. Futures down 700 pts. Waiting for the official call.