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41   theoakman   2016 Nov 23, 2:30pm  

joeyjojojunior says

"Oh for fuck sake, you can't be serious. Network television has aired feminists who say air conditioning in offices is sexist. Do I even need to go on????? The main thing I would say qualifies as fake oppression and inspires the most discrimination is the wage gap. The way it's being portrayed is a bald faced lie.

BTW you didn't give one single example so please do so now. What is one men's rights issue I mentioned that you consider fake oppression?"

That's my point though. One idiot who goes on TV and says something ridiculous isn't oppressing anyone. Last I checked, most offices still have air conditioning. So, how is anyone oppressed by her idiocy?

And I agree the wage gap is fake oppression. If you control for the right factors, it magically goes away.

I was on a science forum and dared to claim that women are no longer discriminated against in science now that fellowships and funding are heavily geared towards increasing "women in science". I was pounced on left and right by both males and females alike. Anyone that agreed with me stood silent for fear of being labeled the same. The discrimination is real and the men who go along with it validate it. The fucked up thing was, my whole argument was derived from statements my wife has made. So I took a female scientists statements, restated them as a man, as was declared sexist and discriminatory.

42   RealEstateIsBetterThanStocks   2016 Nov 23, 5:58pm  

Gary Anderson says

Don't confuse putting your woman first with weakness. Macho is weak.

that is just your whipped 'philosophy' not everyone's. putting your women first does not mean completely ignoring your own health.

nothing "macho" about demanding equal attention given to cancerous testicles or prostates. will see how "gentlemen" you are when you get hit with testicular cancer and can't walk with enlarged balls the side of a football and you need to chop them off to save your life.

43   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 23, 6:34pm  

joeyjojojunior says

Are you this dim? Do you really not see the point?

Can you not see the point? You can't point to a handful of wealthy white guys and say therefore they represent all whites, and therefore it's okay to use "White Male" as a blanket phrase for Executives. Just like Kareem Abdul-Jubar, Don King, and Kayne don't represent all Black guys.

joeyjojojunior says

So, white males have fared best by being hurt the least as a group.

No, don't agree. Those already wealthy got immensely wealthier. Some of those who were comfortable became wealthy. The other 80% is either the same or worse off, some substantially so. Whites numerically are about 2/3 of the population. There are many more poor whites than all blacks combined.

44   MisdemeanorRebel   2016 Nov 23, 7:38pm  

Imagine if any party hack of any political party said "We don't need more (INSERT ANY NON-WHITE, NON-MALE, NON-HETERO IDENTITY HERE) people leading the (WHATEVER) party."

Yet this is just a page 2 type story. Had it been Rince Preibus who said "We don't need more (Hispanic lesbian) people leading Republican Party", just imagine the outrage, it would dominate multiple news cycles and be hailed as evidence of the wickedness of Conservatives and Whites Generally.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/23/cnns_symone_sanders_we_dont_need_white_people_leading_the_democratic_party_right_now.html

45   anonymous   2016 Nov 23, 9:00pm  

Jojo - I hope all of these responses can have a positive impact on your thinking regarding identity politics. The left wing media have poisoned the minds of so many into promoting segregation and divisiveness while claiming to resolve the very problem they propagate. It's a business for them. It creates hate and allegiance to their political agenda to gain votes by subtly aligning "minorities" into the concept of being victims when in fact it's all an illusion. Don't be weak-minded and fall victim to this toxic Jedi mind trick.

46   anonymous   2016 Nov 23, 9:14pm  

I'd like to add that the right has their own mind tricks for the weak-minded, but that's not the topic at hand here.

47   NDrLoR   2016 Nov 23, 9:14pm  

just any guy says

divisiveness

The wages of diversity.

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