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justme
2016 Dec 16, 9:53am
How many kWh/mile does a Chevy Bolt (corrected) consume on the various EPA driving cycles?
About adoption; are the charger connectors the same as Tesla, Leaf, etc?
Strategist
2016 Dec 16, 9:57am
How many kWh/mile does a Chevy Volt consume on the various EPA driving cycles?
You get 3.5 miles per KWh on the Chevy Volt. Most electric cars give between 3 and 4 miles per KWh.
RWSGFY
2016 Dec 16, 11:01am
About adoption; are the charger connectors the same as Tesla, Leaf, etc?
This shit is standardized across the board already.
RWSGFY
2016 Dec 16, 11:05am
Uh, no. The guy who loves golden plumbing and marble everywhere would not like FWD econobox which looks like shrunk minivan.
Tenpoundbass
2016 Dec 16, 11:12am
After all state and Federal tax credits are added in, you can get a fully-equipped model for around $31,000 US plus applicable state sales taxes.
Some dealers are adding a $5,000 US surcharge on the sticker price.
Better hurry up and be a sucker. Because Trump is going to kill green rebates for Elite Toys.
Why in the hell isn't there cheap Solar power for the poor in this country?
But you can get a car that will probably suck 20 grand out the tax money I pay.
I would rather that $20 grand go to something "USEFUL".
I hope Trump claws back every last cent especially from those that added a 5K surcharge.
RWSGFY
2016 Dec 16, 11:20am
Why in the hell isn't there cheap Solar power for the poor in this country?
But you can get a car that will probably suck 20 grand out the tax money I pay.
Unlike federal rebate for electric cars which is set at maximum $7500, federal tax credit is 30% of the system cost. So while it's absolutely impossible to "suck 20 grand out of the tax money" by buying an electric car, it's theoretically possible to do it with a solar electric power system.
justme
2016 Dec 16, 12:16pm
How many kWh/mile does a Chevy Volt consume on the various EPA driving cycles?
You get 3.5 miles per KWh on the Chevy Volt. Most electric cars give between 3 and 4 miles per KWh.
The reason I ask is that a lot of numbers are bandied about that are from rectal extraction and not EPA numbers. And then there are the MPGe numbers, which really are not oil-equivalent at all because they do not properly count the CO2 that goes into electricity, as well as assumes that the power plant is 100% efficient. MPGe is so wrong it makes me puke!
Strategist
2016 Dec 16, 1:37pm
Better hurry up and be a sucker. Because Trump is going to kill green rebates for Elite Toys.
The reason I ask is that a lot of numbers are bandied about that are from rectal extraction and not EPA numbers. And then there are the MPGe numbers, which really are not oil-equivalent all because they do not count the CO2 that goes into electricity.
I have a Chevy Volt, and an electric Mercedes. And i'm in line for the Model 3 Tesla.
Trust me, going electric is very economical. You save on maintenance, and you save on cents per mile.
Don't fall for the oil company nonsense about electric cars.
justme
2016 Dec 16, 1:52pm
I have a Chevy Volt, and an electric Mercedes. And i'm in line for the Model 3 Tesla.
Trust me, going electric is very economical. You save on maintenance, and you save on cents per mile.
You are missing the point. "Economical" is not the same as lowest CO2/mile, especially when the incremental electricity demand is met producing electricity as cheaply a possible, meaning coal-based. If I have said it once on PatNet, I must have said it a dozen times already. What matters is CO2/mile, and ALL the EV manufacturers and the government are LYING about the benefit of EV.
Buy a Prius, it gets 50mpg if you drive it nicely. A Tesla Model S gets at best 35mpg equivalent in terms of how much CO2 it generates, and that is on AVERAGE grid mix,. Incremental grid mix is worse (CO2/kWh).
Strategist
2016 Dec 16, 2:02pm
I have a Chevy Volt, and an electric Mercedes. And i'm in line for the Model 3 Tesla.
Trust me, going electric is very economical. You save on maintenance, and you save on cents per mile.You are missing the point. "Economical" is not the same as lowest CO2/mile, especially when the incremental electricity demand is met producing electricity as cheaply a possible, meaning coal-based. If I have said it once on PatNet, I must have said it a dozen times already. What matters is CO2/mile, and ALL the EV manufacturers and the government are LYING about the benefit of EV.
Buy a Prius, it gets 50mpg if you drive it nicely. A Tesla Model S gets at best 35mpg equivalent in terms of how much CO2 it generates, and that is on AVERAGE grid mix,. Incremental grid mix is worse (CO2/kWh).
I was not looking at CO2 savings. Just the actual costs of running and maintaining the electric cars. We have a 2011 Prius, and absolutely love it. 99,000 miles, and we haven't even changed the brakes yet. Very good quality, and very economical too.
Donald Trump Would Love The Chevy Bolt!
Yesterday in the middle of a big rain storm I took a test drive in the Chevy Bolt; thanks to James D. Murdock of Stewart Chevrolet. Jim told me to drive it for as long as I wanted and anywhere that I wanted. With a heavy rain down pour I avoided freeways and fast driving.
Ten minutes into the test drive I knew that I was in love with the car. We would buy one despite our concern over economic conditions with a new president in office. I have been researching electric cars for years with intense interest in the Tesla. Elena rejected this car because it was too expensive (say $120,000). The Tesla also immerses the driver in a massive screen. It seems like the car is in control and the driver is just a passenger.
The Chevy Bolt is different. After all state and Federal tax credits are added in, you can get a fully-equipped model for around $31,000 US plus applicable state sales taxes. The Bolt has advanced technology. But the technology is not overwhelming or hard to understand. It is just a tool to help the driver. The car is solid and well built. It would give protection in the event of a crash.
Those of you who have lived in Europe, Africa, South America, etc. are familiar with the Fiat Uno. (It never was offered widely in the USA.) I owned one in South Africa in 1991. It was gasoline powered. It also was a tribute to the great engineering skills of the Italian auto industry.
The Uno looks small on the outside. It is solidly-built, nimble and handles beautifully both in the city and on the highway. Despite the small exterior, the interior was roomy and amazingly comfortable. The same can be said about the Bolt. Jim and I are both big men and we fit perfectly in the front seats. We are dog lovers and we need a car that would carry two big dogs (say 60 lbs, to 80 lbs. each). The backseat area of the Bolt would accommodate two large adults or two large dogs. The Bolt is perfect for driving in crowded cities like San Francisco, New York City, etc.
When we got back to the dealership, I found out that there is a long waiting list for the car. Some dealers are adding a $5,000 US surcharge on the sticker price. Stewart Chevrolet refused to do this. I placed an order and was told to expect delivery in February.
This is American engineering and design at its best. Donald Trump would love this car!