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Rashomon says

MMR says

Those moderates you speak of are actually 'bad muslims' as per wahhabi dictates.

So what? They don't speak for all of Islam, do they?

Why not? They are the most religious, and read the Koran the most. They know more about Islam than anyone else.
They emulate Mohammad, the Perfect Muslim. Everything Mohammad did would get him the death penalty today.

Rashomon says

'm pointing out the problems with individuals on this forum painting every Muslim with the same brush

Let's guess, you were against brexit.

To the point; let's talk about "Asian gangs" and how your beloved BBC likes to paint Hindus, sikhs, christians and buddhists from Asia as the same as muslims when the "Asian gangs" in question are overwhelmingly Muslim.

Tell me, of those muslims who are not in 'Asian gangs' why are those muslims overwhelmingly ghettoized whike Hindus and sikhs are spread through Britain? But of course, BBC never asks those questions, so neither do you. Could it be that they are highly intent on injecting themselves into politics?

What about the fatwa issued on mayor khan for approving same sex marriage and then kowtowing to these 'moderates' later by banning 'body shaming' ads when all he's really doing is a solid for the hijabi/burqa community

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/13/sadiq-khan-moves-to-ban-body-shaming-ads-from-london-transport?client=safari

MMR says

Tell me, of those muslims who are not in 'Asian gangs' why are those muslims overwhelmingly ghettoized whike Hindus and sikhs are spread through Britain?

Except I was born and grew up in the UK and know damn well that the Hindu community, for example, has its own areas as does the smaller Sikh community, as do many other groups of foreigners. That is what generally tends to happen - they form communities - something that is more pronounced in a country the size of England. The fact some are more spread out around the country than others is largely down to when those groups arrived. And FYI, Muslims are very much spread out throughout England and Scotland - Manchester, Luton, Blackburn, Birmingham, London, Leicester, Derby, many of the smaller old industrial Northern towns, Liverpool, Glasgow, Edinburgh... Yeah, that's pretty spread out I'd say, but hey, don't let facts get in the way of whatever it was you were trying to say.

Amazing statistics on how much Muslims the world over support terrorism>

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx

Sharia

83% of Pakistanis support stoning adulterers
78% of Pakistanis support killing apostates
http://www.realcourage.org/2009/08/pakistan-78-percent-call-for-apostate-deaths/

Center for Social Cohesion: 40% of British Muslim students want Sharia
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html
ICM Poll: 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

GfK NOP: 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

MacDonald Laurier Institute: 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/

Islam, Human Rights and Public Opinion (Durie refers to 2006 poll): 58% of Indonesians believe adulterers should be stoned to death.
https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2016/08/slaughter-silence-open-secret/

BBC (2007): 28% of Muslims in the UK prefer Sharia (37% for those younger).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6309983.stm

World Public Opinion: 81% of Egyptians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
76% of Pakistanis want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country

Rashomon says

curious2 says

...most Muslims demand Sharia. IOW, they demand your execution.

No, they don't.

Rashomon you are full of shit. Read above.

Rashomon, this is in your neck of the woods.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020382/You-entering-Sharia-law-Britain-As-Islamic-extremists-declare-Sharia-law-zone-London-suburb-worrying-social-moral-implications.html

As Islamic extremists declare Britain's first Sharia law zone, the worrying social and moral implications

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020382/You-entering-Sharia-law-Britain-As-Islamic-extremists-declare-Sharia-law-zone-London-suburb-worrying-social-moral-implications.html#ixzz4TsrGZrfK
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More shit for Rashomon on Sharia support.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

According to the survey findings, most Muslims believe sharia is the revealed word of God

MMR says

HEY YOU says

Drive that knife DEEP!


BURN IN HELL! BLASPHEMERS!

You support muslims who are not in least bit interested in your way of life more than you do the underclass whites who are disenfranchised by globalism. Interesting

Too bad you are so shallow minded as to not have read comments where I talk about obliterating MECCA,MEDINA & the DOME OF THE ROCK. If you don't immediately demand that america takes this action,
You just might be a america hating Muslim Lover.
Do you support sending american tax dollars to Israel when we have hungry,homeless,abused women & children who are american citizens? Sounds like SOCIALISM with my tax dollar.
How much outsourced Communist Chinese crap did you buy this year?
When can I join your: BOYCOTT ALL IMPORTED PRODUCTS THAT AREN'T TARIFF-ED/TAXED TO BALANCE OUR TRADE CLUB?

Expert trolls are having a HAPPY BIRTHDAY,JESUS! celebration pointing out hypocrisy.

I for one am glad the US abstained.
Long overdue IMHO.

Rashomon says

No, they don't.

Even in Western countries, substantially large numbers of Muslims support Sharia and half want homosexuality illegal and punished by law.

Half of all British Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal, poll finds

Survey for Channel 4 documentary finds 23% want sharia law

In the UK, where Muslims are exposed to Western Culture 24-7-365. Many are second generation who grew up in the UK.

The real conceit of multicult leftists is they only think Westerns think their culture superior. And therefore, Muslims must be the victims of Western Hegemony.

Rashomon, do you support one law for all?

I find it bizarre that American and British Leftists get all hot under the collar about Mormon Polygamy, wouldn't think twice about imprisoning the father and throwing the book at him under the Monogamy Laws --

Yet tolerate without question and wouldn't dream of legally punishing Pakistani Men having two wives - with the children all on Benefits to boot.

It's not like the Home Office doesn't have a ready made database of suspects:
https://www.secondwife.com/

Rashomon says

No, they don't.

What motivates your lying on behalf of Islam? Taqiyyeh? As an atheist, you would be much worse off if Shariah were imposed on you, and yet you defend it.

anonymous says

"most Muslims believe sharia is the revealed word of God"

The real problem is not where they believe it came from, but rather how many want to impose it by force.

In most countries that have Muslim majorities, most Muslims demand Sharia. That has the effect of punishing and crushing everything contrary to Islam, including Anglicanism and atheism. Something has turned Rashomon against himself: some psychological and cultural apoptosis, but he refuses to say or even consider what has done this to him. Instead, he blames everyone else. Petrodollar propaganda has evidently extended suicidality in service of Islam even to non-Muslims in NATO countries.

Rashomon says

peaceful and devout Muslims are not following their religion?

The Koran commands them to strike terror into the enemies of Allah and to kill the disbelievers. The only "peace" in Islam is the grave, although on earth Islam commands Muslims to use terror and the equivalent of a prison curfew to silence dissent, including atheism.

crashtheninvest says

Backstabbing our friend is decency?

Israel isnt our friend. Our zionist controlled gov't sends money there against the will of most Americans. Our good American name is now forever tarnished for associating with Israel and all their evil. Death of other peoples is very ok with Zionist Israel. Real Jews hate the illegal state of Israel. G.d explicitly told the real Jews that they werent allowed to own land or have their own country. Real Jews want peace just like most Christians. What you have today are immoral Zionist shitbags claiming to be Jewish that hate G.d, dont go to temple, and don't consciously practice the law of Moses. To add insult to injury their still being allowed to commit murder and genocide in the name of Judaism.

As an atheist I dont care what God is supposed to have said. I do know that Israel and the US face the same enemy- Islam. An enemy of an enemy is a friend. Therefore Israel is our friend, as is every other country that faces Islamic terror.

curious2 says

What motivates your lying on behalf of Islam? Taqiyyeh? As an atheist, you would be much worse off if Shariah were imposed on you, and yet you defend it.

He is simply lying about being an atheist to make it easier to drive home his points on beautiful Islam.
He is probably a Pakistani Muslim raised in England. The first 4 letters of his name "RASH" probably stands for Rashid, a Muslim name.
And yes, I am speculating.

Strategist says

He is probably a Pakistani Muslim raised in England. The first 4 letters of his name "RASH" probably stands for Rashid, a Muslim name.

And yes, I am speculating.

That would make sense. He might be an atheist and in denial about what Islam says to do to him. With only 5% Muslim population, the British are unlikely to execute him in this generation. If he lived in Pakistan, he would know that Islam commands all Muslims to kill him, and prohibits all Muslims from protecting him, and that many Muslims stand all too eager to do what Islam says.

I think Rashomon is a Kurasawa Movie.
curious2 says

That would make sense. He might be an atheist and in denial about what Islam says to do to him. With only 5% Muslim population, the British are unlikely to execute him in this generation. If he lived in Pakistan, he would know that Islam commands all Muslims to kill him, and prohibits all Muslims from protecting him, and that many Muslims stand all too eager to do what Islam says.

Majorities of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support the death penalty for leaving Islam
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/01/64-percent-of-muslims-in-egypt-and-pakistan-support-the-death-penalty-for-leaving-islam/?utm_term=.f7345f39bcaa

If she stayed in Pakistan, she would be killed
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/29473/if-she-stayed-in-pakistan-she-would-be-killed/

Where atheism is punishable by death - and every single one is a Muslim Country.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/12/13-countries-where-atheism-punishable-death/355961

10 years and 2000 lashes:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/saudi-court-sentences-man-to-10-years-2000-lashes-for-atheist-tweets/

It's amazing how much energy Multicult Lefties spend on bashing Evangelicals for not baking a cake, Pussy Riot's disruption of church services, and Manspreading, and how they studiously ignore the status of Human Rights in Muslim Countries.

#RemoveKebab

crashtheninvest says

Israel isnt our friend. Our zionist controlled gov't sends money there against the will of most Americans.

The United States is a republic. The support of Israel is exactly in keeping with Americans' preferences:

Interesting: Support among Democrats for Israel is actually rising:

crashtheninvest says

Death of other peoples is very ok with Zionist Israel.

No country bends over backwards to give violent insurgents maximum human rights than Israel. Those who hate Israel ignore other US Allies who have no regard for human life whatsoever, especially Saudi Arabia.

The UN is a ridiculous institution that gives Angola the same vote as Brazil, a country many times larger and more powerful. UN members vote with the Muslims because the Muslims control much of the world's oil, which they use as leverage to get votes.

New settlements in the West Bank? How is there any more room for "new" settlements? Are they still pushing people out to make room? I don't care which side God is on, that strikes me as wrong.

I have no problem with Israel's right to exist. I also believe Palestine has a right to exist. The Palestinians certainly outnumber them.

It's one thing I admire Obama and Kerry for. Standing up to our allies in Israel for the sake of coexistence..because the Israelis never will do it on their own.

They need to find room to give them an independent Palestine. Then...let them fight forever.

Hamas doesn't want a two state solution, and neither does the PLO/PA. The long term solution is ethnic cleansing.

More Jews were booted out of the Middle East than Palestinians. Unlike the Palestinians, the Jews did not try to take over any countries.
Nor did Palestinians feel that being under Jordan or Egypt impeded their national aspiration. It was only after 1967 that the Palestinians wanted to be a country.
Then they were kicked out of Jordan for trying to overthrow the government, helped ignite the Lebanon Civil War in the late 70s/early 80s, and were kicked out of Kuwait for supporting Saddam Hussein in 1991.
They are one of the fattest people in the world, so their claims of being starved by Israel are laughable. I think Paleban Women are like the 3rd fattest on the planet.

Neoliberals backed the Albanians in Kosovo and Croatians in the Krajina to ethnically cleanse, so why do Neoliberals have another standard for Israel?

When New Zealand returns all the land to the Maori, I'll give two shits what Kiwis think about Israel. Otherwise it's rank hypocrisy, especially since there is no Welsh Book from 500BC talking about the Welsh dwelling in New Zealand nor archeological evidence for English people having a king in Wellington or anywhere else in those Islands. "Oh yeah, I'm not giving any land back to the natives but you have to cause it would be wrong if you didn't."

How come Lefties stopped talking about South Africa? It's all peaceful there now, right?

PS The PLO owes $655M to Americans they killed.

(Another example, by the way, of US Courts allowing Americans to sue foreign entities.)

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

They are one of the fattest people in the world, so their claims of being starved by Israel are laughable. I think Paleban Women are like the 3rd fattest on the planet.

I don't see Palestine on this list, but then maybe they aren't being counted as a country:

http://gazettereview.com/2016/06/top-10-fattest-countries-in-world/

What's really amazing is that 6 of the 10 fattest countries are Islamic. I'd bet it's related to the severe religious restrictions on all other kinds of pleasure aside from food.

It was printed in the Economist via WHO:

rando says

I'd bet it's related to the severe religious restrictions on all other kinds of pleasure aside from food.

Probably right. Not a great argument for intermittent fasting, either (Ramadan)!

Truly, Palestinian Occupied Israeli Territories are an open air concentration camp (with top 3 female obesity, water parks, multistory malls, electronics stores, gated communities, etc. etc.)

I don't know if it's still in operation - I think some Hamas terrorists burned some of the buildings down because they allowed mixed-sex children to play there.

deepcgi says

I have no problem with Israel's right to exist. I also believe Palestine has a right to exist.

The problem is, Palestinians don't want Israel to exist. They want everything.
Besides, Palestinians are terrorists that want to kill my kids. Why would i want them to exist?

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

LOL. Seems to me it's the Israelis that might be starving.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

PS The PLO owes $655M to Americans they killed.

(Another example, by the way, of US Courts allowing Americans to sue foreign entities.)

They would rather blow themselves up, then pay up.

If Jordan would take back the West Bank, we wouldn't be in this spot. But the Jordanians survived one attempted Fatah takeover, and don't want the Paleban with them anymore. The Egyptians wouldn't take Gaza back if Israel paid them.

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

If Jordan would take back the West Bank, we wouldn't be in this spot. But the Jordanians survived one attempted Fatah takeover, and don't want the Paleban with them anymore. The Egyptians wouldn't take Gaza back if Israel paid them.

No one wants terrorists. Except Germany and the US.

Rashomon says

again, you demonstrate problems with basic reading comprehension. '

I think you have problems when ADD because it does say countries with a Muslim majority. Nice try, liar

curious2 says

With only 5% Muslim population, the British are unlikely to execute him in this generation

But they got a Muslim mayor. Ghettoization works

rando says

bet it's related to the severe religious restrictions on all other kinds of pleasure aside from food.

That, and their culture promotes slavery and sloth

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

How come Lefties stopped talking about South Africa? It's all peaceful there now, right?

Cause they got rid of apartheid Strategist says

n enemy of an enemy is a friend. Therefore Israel is our friend, as is every other country that faces Islamic terror

Same
Principle applies to Russia.

People here would rather have us kowtow to Saudi Arabia instead of putting pressure on them

Thunderlips is Tovbot2 says

Rashomon says

No, they don't.

Even in Western countries, substantially large numbers of Muslims support Sharia and half want homosexuality illegal and punished by law.

Half of all British Muslims think homosexuality should be illegal, poll finds

Survey for Channel 4 documentary finds 23% want sharia law

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

In the UK, where Muslims are exposed to Western Culture 24-7-365. Many are second generation who grew up in the UK.

The real conceit of multicult leftists is they only think Westerns think their culture superior. And therefore, Musli...

Exactly, fatwa issued by muslims against Muslim mayor for signing same sex legislation into law and leading gay pride parade

http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/07/sadiq-khan-2016-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-mayor-of-london-5867489/

MMR says

People here would rather have us kowtow to Saudi Arabia instead of putting pressure on them

We kiss them, bow down to them, while they attack us.

Rashomon says

can't even get your countries right FFS. And it's funny how you moan about the BBC and other UK media when they clearly take a more balanced approach to Isra

When they can't take a balanced approach to India, you have to take with a grain of salt anything else they say about anything.

The 'balance' of the BBC is borne in small part of a policy of appeasement. Don't want you know who to riot in the streets (hint: not Hindus and sikhs)

HEY YOU says

Too bad you are so shallow minded as to not have read comments where I talk about obliterating MECCA,MEDINA & the DOME OF THE ROCK. If you don't immediately demand that america takes this action,

No I missed those. I commend you but forgive me as you tend to go off on tangents

Rashomon says

And FYI, Muslims are very much spread out throughout England and Scotland - Manchester, Luton, Blackburn, Birmingham, London, Leicester, Derby, many of the smaller old industrial Northern t

In those cities the populations are heavily concentrated. Why is there a fatwa on the Muslim mayor of London. Where are those moderate Muslim s who you
Speak of denouncing stupid Muslim from issuing such edicts?

Why is wearing a bikini on a billboard now a bad thing in Britain. It is 'fat shaming' right

Secondly, most moderates would happily acquiesce to sharia if someone else more radical is willing to fight for it.

Rashomon says

Yeah, that's pretty spread out I'd say, but hey, don't let facts get in the way of whatever it was you were trying to say.

Ghettoized doesn't mean concentrated into a single nook in one city. They are ghettoized in several cities. I commend you on your efforts to obfuscate.

Feel free to post links to prove me wrong
And I would be happy to at least consider them. As long as it isn't your "fair and balanced" BBC

Rashomon says

MMR says

Those moderates you speak of are actually 'bad muslims' as per wahhabi dictates.

So what? They don't speak for all of Islam, do they?

MMR says

Why don't you go brush up on some 'Asian gangs' you racist BBC supporter

Yeah, you're a real expert on it after reading a couple of articles on your go to alt-right (or more likely in your case far right) websites.

Way to avoid the point. You're such a pussy that you can't even admit when your beloved paper is
Making racist comments. Lumping Pakistani muslims with Hindus and sikhs is flat out disgusting.

You're an expert on sidestepping facts

Rashomon says

No, they don't' was referencing the idiotic IOW comment

Depends on country. Have you walked into any gay bars in gaza? Pretty sure that's grounds for execution, which is why they don't exist