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bob2356 says

OK, educate me. Show me the backdoor deals that connect the EPA to the government funding from completely separate agencies.

Crickets chirping, lots of crickets chirping.

Sorry, but this one was too easy, and I wanted to keep you guys on the hook for a while longer since your such big fans of MonsantoPA
http://www.naturalnews.com/042387_EPA_corrupt_officials_money_laundering.html

joeyjojojunior says

How would a local neighborhood, municipality, or individual stop factories 1000 miles away from polluting the environment and causing acid rain to fall in your area? Boycott? Great--do you boycott every company that has a factory in the Midwest? How do you know which ones are emitting the NOX and SOX?

Again, the power to do good rests solely with your Fed saviors, supermen we can never hope to surpass in intellect. Locals are far too stupid to take air samples, or use any of the other fancy tests the EPA has...

bob2356 says

yep, look at all the endangered species coming back in the cuyahoga circa 1969.

"No pictures of the 1969 fire are known to exist, as local media did not arrive on the scene until after the fire was under control."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuyahoga_River

Wow, you are the most blatant liar on Patnet, and that's saying something.

joeyjojojunior says

causing acid rain somewhere NE of there.

Really? I grew up in the Midwest well before any of these studies or regulations you mention, not once did acid rain ever get mentioned as a reality.

Whatever happened to Acid Rain? That claim has disappeared. I thought the reason is that it had more to do with ash from natural forest fires and rotting pine needles making mountain lakes and the upper soil more acidic. Esp. back in the day when there was a "Stop all forest fires" mentality.

They used to bang on it all the time when I was a kid in the 80s.

You know what else has almost disappeared from conversation? The Ozone Layer.

"Really? I grew up in the Midwest well before any of these studies or regulations you mention, not once did acid rain ever get mentioned as a reality."

I think you just weren't paying attention.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/07/020718075630.htm
http://gizmodo.com/after-decades-of-acid-rain-damage-northeastern-forests-1740571183
http://nadp.sws.uiuc.edu/educ/acidrain.aspx

"Whatever happened to Acid Rain? That claim has disappeared"

I just told you. The EPA happened. Title IV and Title V emissions standards on factories emitting SOx, NOx, CO. The reason you don't hear about it anymore is precisely BECAUSE of the EPA and its regulations.

"The Ozone Layer"

Again--thanks to regulations. Two success stories which never happen without regulatory bodies.

joeyjojojunior says

I just told you. The EPA happened. Title IV and Title V emissions standards on factories emitting SOx, NOx, CO. The reason you don't hear about it anymore is precisely BECAUSE of the EPA and its regulations.

Holy shit, you believe everything the government tells you?

https://debunkhouse.wordpress.com/2010/02/23/the-acid-rain-scam/

If you never saw it, don't remember relatives or friends ever having dealt with it, and these are people from the areas where it supposedly happened, then WTF are you talking about!? Does Uncle Sam sneak in through your bedroom window and ass rape you when you fail to meet your propaganda quota?

"Holy shit, you believe everything the government tells you?"

Yes, I believe scientists over some random blog that you posted.

"If you never saw it, don't remember relatives or friends ever having dealt with it, and these are people from the areas where it supposedly happened, then WTF are you talking about!? Does Uncle Sam sneak in through your bedroom window and ass rape you when you fail to meet your propaganda quota?"

wtf. It doesn't exist if I don't see it? Are you kidding me?

But just for you:
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A0LEV0JASppYXlAA8p1XNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=acid+rain+damage&fr=yfp-t