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joeyjojojunior says

How about we punish them when they break our laws?

so in your mind, trying to punish russia is more important than peace?

"so in your mind, trying to punish russia is more important than peace?"

In your mind, sanctions will always lead to war? How do you figure?

joeyjojojunior says

What's the point. You don't know what evidence is.

Ain't got nuthin!

My favorite was the evidence for emails between Trump and Putin, that turned out to be marketing emails from Trump Properties sent as part of some promotion getting "unsubscribe" responses.

joeyjojojunior says

In your mind, sanctions will always lead to war? How do you figure?

I personally don't think sanctions lead to war, I was just repeating the MSM party line for humor...That being said, I like the idea of less world conflict. I also don't believe the the usa needs to be the world's police force.

Russia owes us nothing. The Iron Curtain came down and they were treated like crap since then.
Cut throat dictators with documented crimes against humanity got more respect and were treated many times as honored guest both in the UN and at the White House.

We even criticized their Olympic hosting. Which I think was the last straw. The next week Putin started reclaiming what's Russia. Fuck the west this is Russia!

"Ain't got nuthin!"

Yes, I do have "nuthin" by TLL's definition which includes IP addresses, CIA sourced intel, significant circumstantial evidence, etc.-which is enough to convince every Intel agency, every cybersecurity agency, every Lawmaker who has seen it that it is overwhelming. In TLL's world, it's "nuthin".

The American Cockcuckers Liberal elite are the planets most dangerous organism. And if they keep taking this to ahead.
Will be judiciously dispatched by the growing Conservative national values sweeping the world.

Take notice and be warned. You pussies won't stand a chance when will becomes might.

"I personally don't think sanctions lead to war, I was just repeating the MSM party line for humor...That being said, I like the idea of less world conflict. I also don't believe the the usa needs to be the world's police force."

I agree as well. But countries cannot be allowed to interfere in our elections.

joeyjojojunior says

I agree as well. But countries cannot be allowed to interfere in our elections.

If you believe that then George Soros needs an Obama extended blowhole at the base of his skull.

"If you believe that then George Soros needs an Obama extended blowhole at the base of his skull."

Last I checked, Soros isn't a country.

joeyjojojunior says

Don't you know how quid pro quo works?

Is that the same as ,You suck my dick & I'll suck yours? lol

I was gonna say. I've had Tatty on ignore for a while and it's been great - but seeing all the quotes - it's obvious he's trolling you.

"My favorite was the evidence for emails between Trump and Putin, that turned out to be marketing emails from Trump Properties sent as part of some promotion getting "unsubscribe" responses."

You added this later, so I didn't comment on it. That was never evidence of hacking, and was never presented as such. This is you being disingenuous, as usual.

joeyjojojunior says

But countries cannot be allowed to interfere in our elections.

Vise versa is OK though.

joeyjojojunior says

You added this later, so I didn't comment on it. That was never evidence of hacking, and was never presented as such. This is you being disingenuous, as usual.

Not evidence of hacking - it was heralded as evidence of some kind of communication and collaboration between the Orthanc of Trump and the The Lidless Eye of Moscow

"Not evidence of hacking - it was heralded as evidence of some kind of communication and collaboration between the Orthanc of Trump and the The Lidless Eye of Moscow"

And this case is far from closed. It's possible that it was marketing material. It's also possible that it was some kind of communication and collaboration. We don't know.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/11/the_trump_server_evaluating_new_evidence_and_countertheories.html

joeyjojojunior says

And this case is far from closed.

Just like the USS Liberty and 9/11 and Project Bluebook are "Far from Closed" in some people's minds.

One POTUS looked into Putin's ass eyes and saw his soul.... We know how that ended. Another POTUS from different party offered "reset" and promised to be "flexible"... We know how that ended. Now, 3rd POTUS is having his honeymoon with Putin.... "This time it's different"? How? It's the same fucking Putin.

Straw Man says

We know how that ended.

In the attempt by Georgia to annex Ossetia.

Straw Man says

We know how that ended.

The US-led coup of the elected Ukrainian President with the ambassador and high level state employees handing out cookies to the anti-gov protesters.

Imagine if Lavrov went around UCal Berkley last night handing out cookies to the "antifa".

"Just like the USS Liberty and 9/11 and Project Bluebook are "Far from Closed" in some people's minds."

Really? OK great. Please present your evidence that is was marketing emails. And explain all the unusual facts about this server.

T L Lipsovich says

In the attempt by Georgia to annex Ossetia.

It's impossible to annex a part of the country which belongs to Georgia by all international laws. It's like saying that Russia has annexed Chechnya.

T L Lipsovich says

The US-led coup of the elected Ukrainian President with the ambassador and high level state employees handing out cookies to the anti-gov protesters.

You mean this ambassador handing cookies to this protesters? What's so problematic about it?

T L Lipsovich says

Imagine if Lavrov went around UCal Berkley last night handing out cookies to the "antifa".

So what? Besides, Berkeley is in US last time I checked. Kiev is not in Russia.

Proves my point: no matter how friendly US's stance towards Russia it will use it for further expansion and then blame "bad relations" on US "attacking Mother Russia with cookies in some foreign capital". Then they wait till next admin rolls in, bait them with "better relations" and repeat the cycle. Happened twice already in this century.

komputodo says

so in your mind, trying to punish russia is more important than peace?

Iran is "on notice". Peace more important than saber rattling here too?

Four years from now, Trump will take off a mask and we'll see he was Putin all along.

Straw Man says

You mean this ambassador handing cookies to this protesters? What's so problematic about it?

Nothing says "This was a totally spontaneous expression of political discontent without any involvement by little old us, than distributing cookies at anti-government protests."

In other words, the US sponsored a coup against an elected President. If anything, the current Government is Ukraine's most Corrupt Ever, and that's saying something for the Gabon of Europe.

Hey, whatever happened to the money for the Chinese paid for the Varyag or the billion they paid upfront for grain?

Hey, weren't nations experiencing internal conflict prohibited from getting IMF and World Bank loans? Another 'special exception' for the Obama-Hillary Ukraine coup.

She was in a real hurry to recognize those aristocrats in Honduras though.