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Patrick
2017 Feb 3, 11:00pm
It's not a coincidence that German culture spawned both the Nazi's AND is at the center of today's PC culture. As a society, virtue signalling is far more important than individual liberty to them. Righteousness is more important than truth.It was a recipe for fascism in the 30's, just like today.
Yes, this is a great insight I have not heard before.
I lived in Germany for two years in college and can speak German. Also lived with a family for the summer before junior year of HS. They were totally PC even then, out of a pervasive sense of guilt for WWII. It had not occurred to me that guilt and virtue signaling (by admitting your guilt publicly as a "racist" from birth exactly like original sin) can be powerful controlling forces, but they can. So yes, same shit seems to be going on here, and maybe it explains why the left is acting much more like Nazis than the right this time around.
marcus
2017 Feb 3, 11:05pm
and maybe it explains why the left is acting much more like Nazis than the right this time around.
Yes, something like 5% of the left. Meanwhile the entire right (which has been drifting further to the right for decades, elects Donald Trump PResident. (this doesn't seems weird to you ?) Meanwhile the behavior of a tiny fraction of the left has you saying:
"the left is acting much more like Nazis than the right this time around"
Truly stunning times. What the hell is going on ?
Rew
2017 Feb 3, 11:21pm
The fear and sense of being threatened has driven the right to madness. They are driving legislation of reactionary paranoia, rallied around a belief that terrorists and angry college kids drugged up on kale juice are coming for them.
(Insert picture of 1 poison M&M meme here. Only problem is the picture is short about 3.6 billion M&Ms (1 in 3.6 billion : the odds of you being killed by a refugee), but hey, facts are meaningless. We are running on feelings now. America first! Shutdown the borders! Trump, call up the next world leader to insult! MAGA!)
CBOEtrader
2017 Feb 3, 11:34pm
Meanwhile the behavior of a tiny fraction of the left
This may be fair, but where is that same tiny violent fraction from the right?
Check out Professor haidt and consider the blinding nature of righteousness. https://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind#t-6154 "Sports is to war as pornography is to sex." Good stuff.
We are irrational as individuals. As groups, we are pure fucking sociopaths. Every group-think evil in human history had righteousness at its core. Today's left is righteously, gleefully hateful of fellow americans in a way that I've never seen.
CBOEtrader
2017 Feb 3, 11:49pm
maybe it explains why the left is acting much more like Nazis
Bingo. Watch for righteousness. "Our righteous minds were designed by evolution to divide us into teams, to unite us against other teams, and to blind us from the truth."
As a caveman, righteousness was an important in-group signal. As a modern thinker, righteousness will misguide you.
Today's left is blinded by righteousness.
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I want to talk about the Krauts.
It's not a coincidence that German culture spawned both the Nazi's AND is at the center of today's PC culture. As a society, virtue signalling is far more important than individual liberty to them. Righteousness is more important than truth.It was a recipe for fascism in the 30's, just like today.
For the record, my grandmother is a german immigrant. My baddass polish grampa knocked her up in Germany right after ww2. She came to ellis island holding my infant mother, and started her new american life in detroit, back in 1948. I still have Opa's nazi paraphernalia, pictures, etc... We even have his fucking journal.
Germans in WW2 were drunk on their own righteousness while acting out violence for the 3rd Reich. Who does that sound like?...