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Jail the employers of illegal immigrants


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2017 Feb 22, 3:11pm   15,762 views  46 comments

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We need to jail (not fine, but actually mandate jail) the employers of illegal immigrants, at least 30 days per violation.

Megafarms and other institutions are driving down US wages illegally. The immigrants themselves have a large cost in tax money.

Both Democrat and Republican politicians profit at the expense of the public:
Democrats get more Hispanics who reliably vote Democrat.
Republicans get cheap labor for their rich patrons.

What you lose:
US wages, public safety, respect for the law
The more poor people there are in a society, the more you have to pay in taxes for social services and law enforcement, and the less healthy economic activity per capita there is, resulting in a decrease in material standard of living for all but the richest 0.1%.

Poverty does not just affect the poor.

How they rationalize their abuse:
"No human being is illegal."
How you should respond to their rationalizations:
Illegal immigrants have broken the law by sneaking over the border. They don't belong here.

If the immigrants were actually brought here by farm owners, they are still illegal and should be deported.
Their illegal immigration results in no bargaining power for labor and thus effective slave labor.

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41   fdhfoiehfeoi   2017 Feb 23, 12:59pm  

Strategist says

Criminals would still come. They are the ones we need to stop first.

I assume you mean criminals on the run from Mexican authorities? If you eliminate 98% of the illegals crossing now, the criminal illegals who still cross to run away, will be pretty easy to spot and deport.

42   Dan8267   2017 Feb 23, 2:16pm  

rando says

@ddshutlz You should not be calling any other user anything on this forum.

Shit, I've been calling people conservatives. That's the worse ad hominem attack.

43   ddshutlz   2017 Feb 23, 2:57pm  

I guess I can't call anyone racist, but I can make comments that are racist.

44   Patrick   2017 Feb 23, 3:01pm  

Yes, please attack the argument and not the person!

It's easy to attack people and call them names without actually making any counter-argument at all.

No one benefits from that. All discussion stops there. Name-calling is exactly what got Trump elected. So many people are sick of its utter pointlessness.

Let's actively try to understand each other's ideas instead.

45   Dan8267   2017 Feb 23, 4:51pm  

rando says

Name-calling is exactly what got Trump elected.

I thought it was his huge hands.

46   Strategist   2017 Feb 23, 5:41pm  

NuttBoxer says

Strategist says

Criminals would still come. They are the ones we need to stop first.

I assume you mean criminals on the run from Mexican authorities? If you eliminate 98% of the illegals crossing now, the criminal illegals who still cross to run away, will be pretty easy to spot and deport.

No, i mean real criminals who come across the border for the sole purpose of committing crimes. The US is a rich country, lots of ways to make money illegally. Drugs, auto theft, burglaries, welfare fraud etc.

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