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I've seen normal people become insane and violently crazy after converting to Islam. Not all, but some. Really depended on their interpretation of how they should follow faith.

PeopleUnited says

What are the root causes of Islamic terrorism?

Faith. Faith, by definition, requires becoming irrational and discarding reality in favor of a delusion.

The more faithful people are, the more irrational and potentially dangerous they are.

Oh shut up. You have faith too...liberalism is faith too. You just won't admit it.

Dan8267 says

PeopleUnited says

What are the root causes of Islamic terrorism?

Faith. Faith, by definition, requires becoming irrational and discarding reality in favor of a delusion.

The more faithful people are, the more irrational and potentially dangerous they are.

Actually Dan is not a liberal. A true liberal would encourage people to practice whatever faith they desired.

I dislike labels but the problem with Dan's philosophy is that without a moral absolute (which by the way comes from God) there is no foundation from which to build.FortWayne says

Oh shut up. You have faith too...liberalism is faith too. You just won't admit it.

Dan8267 says

PeopleUnited says

What are the root causes of Islamic terrorism?

Faith. Faith, by definition, requires becoming irrational and discarding reality in favor of a delusion.

The more faithful people are, the more irrational and potentially dangerous they are.

Actually Dan is not a liberal. A true liberal would encourage people to practice whatever faith they desired.

I dislike labels but the problem with Dan's philosophy is that without a moral absolute (which by the way comes from God) there is no foundation from which to build.

But there is no point in arguing with someone so wise as him. You will only lower yourself by debating what is obvious to every successful culture around the world. There is a God and He knows more than we do.

Dan is trying to turn this debate about Islam into a debate about God. Don't worry about him, he will come around some day. For now I would suggest that his comments regarding religion are foolish and therefore best left alone lest you cast your pearls in the wrong direction my friend.

The causes of Islamic terrorism is really very simple.
Preaching hate and violence, in mosques and madrassas. If you get rid of the hate preachers, Islamic terrorism will start to fade.

Dan is a public denier and a private believer.
One can distill this from his posts.

FortWayne says

Oh shut up. You have faith too...liberalism is faith too. You just won't admit it.

Bullshit. Faith is the belief without, and often in spite of, evidence. Everything I believe, I can support with reasoning and evidence.

How many times do I have to show you this video?

www.f8U_JveHS8E

PeopleUnited says

Actually Dan is not a liberal. A true liberal would encourage people to practice whatever faith they desired.

Also bullshit. A true liberal doesn't encourage people to practice a religion that performs unwilling human sacrifices. Nor would a liberal encourage any religion that infringes upon the rights of others, which is just about every religion. Nor does liberalism mean endorsing delusions, whether they be from drugs or religion.

Your comment is just one more example of people not knowing what liberalism is.

PeopleUnited says

I dislike labels but the problem with Dan's philosophy is that without a moral absolute (which by the way comes from God) there is no foundation from which to build.

Feel free to prove the assertion that morality is either absolute and unquestionable or arbitrary and meaningless. I'll have that debate any time. Easy win.

The fact is that science has solved how morality works, whereas religion has always failed to do this.

PeopleUnited says

But there is no point in arguing with someone so wise as him. You will only lower yourself by debating what is obvious to every successful culture around the world. There is a God and He knows more than we do.

Societies don't think. Individuals do. And individuals, even great numbers of them, can are are wrong. I've disproved the monotheistic god in other threads. Feel free to counter those arguments. You'll fail, especially since the only thing you're bringing to the table right now is baseless assertion.

BlueSardine says

Dan is a public denier and a private believer.

Another example of how the religious are delusional.

Strategist says

The causes of Islamic terrorism is really very simple.

Preaching hate and violence, in mosques and madrassas.

And what enables the teaching of irrational hate and violence?

Dan8267 says

And what enables the teaching of irrational hate and violence?

Islam.

Dan8267 says

Strategist says

The causes of Islamic terrorism is really very simple.


Preaching hate and violence, in mosques and madrassas.

And what enables the teaching of irrational hate and violence?

People with irrational expectations that Allah wants them to conquer the world, and that it is their duty to destroy the non believers.
The same reasoning they have held for 1,400 years, well before USA was discovered. So don't foolishly blame America.

Strategist says

The causes of Islamic terrorism is really very simple.
Preaching hate and violence, in mosques and madrassas. If you get rid of the hate preachers, Islamic terrorism will start to fade.

I'd like to believe that, but I don't.

Hate is central to the Koran. Over and over, on every page, unbelievers are vilified and believers praised and pitied for having to live on the same earth as such unbelieving scum.

You want some quotes?

Strategist says

People with irrational expectations that Allah wants them to conquer the world,

Key word: irrational. That's the root of all problems with faith, not just one particular faith, but faith itself.

Lack of Sex, All-encompassing Ideology.

Lack of Sex is the #1 factor in most terrorism.

rando says

Koran

You mean Quran? I think the Koran is Kim Jong-un's manifesto.

rando says

Hate is central to the Koran. Over and over, on every page, unbelievers are vilified and believers praised and pitied for having to live on the same earth as such unbelieving scum.

How can I disagree? Most Muslims will still interpret that hate in a different/peaceful context. That is what we need. We don't want the preachers interpreting it the way Mohammad the pedophile intended.

rando says

You want some quotes?

Hell no. I don't want to throw up my dinner.

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Lack of Sex is the #1 factor in most terrorism.

And what causes the lack of sex? Faith.

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Lack of Sex is the #1 factor in most terrorism.

Did they run out of goats in all the Islamic countries?

zzyzzx says

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Lack of Sex is the #1 factor in most terrorism.

Did they run out of goats in all the Islamic countries?

You are so insensitive, Zzyzzx. Do you think goats can compete with the breeding rates of Muslims? Obviously there is a shortage go goats, and sheep, and camels.

Dan8267 says

Everything I believe, I can support with reasoning and evidence.

Said the guy who elevated his own reasoning above his Creator's and ignored every single piece of evidence that the universe cannot exist without God.

At least if you were honest with yourself you would say that because you cannot measure or observe every aspect of the natural world you cannot possibly establish how it came into existence and therefore cannot possibly rule out the fact that there is a Creator. But unfortunately you cannot even be honest with yourself. When you deceive your own self, how can you expect others to believe anything you say?

Dan8267 says

The fact is that science has solved how morality works, whereas religion has always failed to do this.

So your belief system is based on "science." And scientists have never been wrong.

Dan8267 says

I've disproved the monotheistic god in other threads.

This would be funny if it weren't so sad. But at least you have FAITH in yourself!

Lack of sex coupled with an arab chromosome abnormality rendering all female arabs lesbians would account for the average rabid savage fanatical islamist and the urging on of the unspeakable by their wives...what we have been missing all along is that the wives get the 72 virgins...

PeopleUnited says

There are women Jihadi's too, and they are not motivated by the 72 virgins.

Case in point.

Dan8267 says

Bullshit. Faith is the belief without, and often in spite of, evidence. Everything I believe, I can support with reasoning and evidence.

I have evidence for what I believe, and you have your "evidence" in which you believe.

You just happen to hate religion, conservatism, etc... that is your choice, your faith, for which you reason backwards even when clearly wrong.