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WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Which is British English for Subcontinental, and since terror is involved, almost certainly a Pakistani Muslim.

You racist. It could be anyone (who is a Muslim)

Jihad Drinking Game.

Take a shot everytime somebody says:

* Not all Muslims
* Makes a false comparison to lightning/shark attacks
* Mental Illness
* Fear backlash on the Muslim Community
* Religion of Peace

* Islamophobia
* Shouldn't result in anti-immigration/anti-refugee policies.

Anyone surprised that the NY Times article does not mention "Muslim" or "Islam"?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/world/europe/uk-westminster-parliament-shooting.html

NY Times stop your deception and get back to journalism!

rando says

Anyone surprised that the NY Times article does not mention "Muslim" or "Islam"?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/world/europe/uk-westminster-parliament-shooting.html

NY Times stop your deception and get back to journalism!

Maybe because that information wasn't available when they wrote the piece. I guess you are happy to shout fake news and then when a paper reports what is actually known, you still want to complain about it.

Rashomon says

Maybe because that information wasn't available when they wrote the piece.

We knew who dunnit even before it was done.

Strategist says

We knew who dunnit even before it was done.

More than likely, but it isn't the job of a journalist to say a Muslim did it when it isn't yet known to the press. Still remember the rush to lay blame for Oklahoma? No harm in actually waiting for the facts to come out.

Rashomon says

Maybe because that information wasn't available when they wrote the piece.

What?

This is pure political suppression of inconvenient facts.

rando says

What?

This is pure political suppression of inconvenient facts.

What a load of bollocks. If you don't know the identity of the perpetrator, you don't say he's Muslim, do you?

Rashomon says

More than likely, but it isn't the job of a journalist to say a Muslim did it when it isn't yet known to the press.

Only to report on wild rumors of Golden Showers with Hookers.

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Only to report on wild rumors of Golden Showers with Hookers.

Yeah, because that's obviously the same. Oh hang on, no it isn't.

Rashomon says

Yeah, because that's obviously the same. Oh hang on, no it isn't.

It is.

We know how the game is played. Don't speculate or mention officials' speculation that "Asian" attacks may be Islamic, even though they fit a pattern seen repeatedly. But report the weakest of rumors from "anonymous" officials against people Carlos doesn't like.

Obligatory:

PS Today is the one year anniversary of the Belgium Attacks.

Pure coincidence I'm sure.

Some Jain was just upset that Theresa May refused to pass a bill condemning the holocaust of dustmites and bedbugs by UK Exterminators.

The Media never speculates without facts.

This is from a few hours ago.

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

It is.

We know how the game is played. Don't speculate that "Asian" attacks are Islamic. But report the weakest of rumors from "anonymous" officials against people Carlos doesn't like.

They were reporting information stated in a dossier drafted by an (ex?) MI6 officer. You want a paper to state the identity of an attacker when it's unknown. Those two things are not the same.

Rashomon says

They were reporting information stated in a dossier drafted by an (ex?) MI6 officer. You want a paper to state the identity of an attacker when it's unknown. Those two things are not the same.

Who was a paid oppo researcher for the Dems. That part gets left out.

"We don't speculate if an intersectional perp is involved. But we'll freely headline the President walking down stairs, asking if he's fearful of stairways."

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

Who was a paid oppo researcher for the Dems. That part gets left out.

"We don't speculate if an intersectional perp is involved. But we'll freely headline the President walking down stairs, asking if he's fearful of stairways."

A source. I'm quite sure if a source reports that 'Abdul' from 'Syria' carried out the attack that that too will be reported. Until then, I don't quite see what you are complaining about. That the press are reporting the known facts during a developing story?

Rashomon says

A source. I'm quite sure if a source reports that 'Abdul' from 'Syria' carried out the attack that that too will be reported. Until then, I don't quite see what you are complaining about. That the press are reporting the known facts during a developing story?

That they're not speculating freely like they do when "Certain People" are accused of various things. Why not speculate freely about the attacker?

I remember SanBer they certainly speculated their ass off about it being right wing gun nuts, white guy workplace violence, etc. until the police reported otherwise.

I'm sure this attack was done by a Pharsee angry on Noruz, and has nothing to do with the anniversary of the Belgian Attacks. Why even mention that connection?

When it's apparently an attack by an intersectional, wait till all the facts are in. If it could be reasonably anything else, speculate wildly until the facts are in.

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

That they're not speculating freely like they do when "Certain People" are accused of various things. Why not speculate freely about the attacker?

Good grief. They were not speculating. They were reporting information in a dossier from a source with access to intelligence information.
And why would good journalists state the identity of a terrorist suspect until his identity is actually known, but I'm quite sure plenty of your favoured websites are stating the likely motives and religion of the attacker already. The inference is already there with the 'terrorist attack' aspect of the reports, but then again you do have incidents when it's simply a crazy on the loose, or when it's a home grown white man for that matter. Why inflame an already inflammatory situation any more than necessary?

Rashomon says

Good grief. They were not speculating. They were reporting information in a dossier from a source with access to intelligence information.

LOL, they were reporting an obviously ludicrous document that made outrageous claims. And, unlike every other "anonymous" piece of info they received, Buzzfeed put the whole thing out, which actually backfired on them when people read it and realized what sheer folly "Hieronomous Bosch Painting" collection of BS it was.

The media also played up Cohen in Prague, and kept doing so until he proved he was in LA with his kids at the time.

When it's Trump, every allegation is true until obviously otherwise.
When it's a Terrorr attack, it can't be Radical Islamic Terror until obviously it is. Until then it could be workplace violence, middle aged murder-suicide, etc.

If many intel agents are like this cray cray dude, no wonder the world is fucked up.

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

almost certainly a Pakistani Muslim.

I'm offended by your closed mindedness. It could be a Muslim from one of a small handful of countries!

The obvious solution here is to ban all pointy objects and all motor vehicles. Only through increasing limits to our personal freedoms will we ever find safety!

WaPoIsHitler Lipsovitch says

LOL, they were reporting an obviously ludicrous document that made outrageous claims. And, unlike every other "anonymous" piece of info they received, but Buzzfeed put the whole thing out, which actually backfired on them when people read it and realized what sheer folly "Hieronomous Boch Painting" collection of BS it was.
When it's Trump, every allegation is true until obviously otherwise.
When it's a Terrorr attack, it can't be Radical Islamic Terror until obviously it is. Until then it could be workplace violence, middle aged murder-suicide, etc.

I don't recall you having a similar reaction to Trump's evidence free wiretapping claims.

Fucking Presbyterian terrorists!