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mell says

That's not true. Good looks get you only so far as a man

Remember, we are talking here about success with dating apps. Finding a good spouse involves environments such as workplace, interest clubs, and churches where people can get to know aspects about you other than just looks.

HeadSet says

mell says

That's not true. Good looks get you only so far as a man

Remember, we are talking here about success with dating apps. Finding a good spouse involves environments such as workplace, interest clubs, and churches where people can get to know aspects about you other than just looks.

Even on the dating apps you need a minimum of basic game as a man. They are better for men than going out, so I enjoyed using them. But as a woman you literally have to put zero work or game into anything, given you are decent looking, i.e. 6 and up. Even as a 4 or 5 you can still good interest, if you're a 5 or below as a man you better have magnificent game (online and irl) or money.

Also things have gotten worse for men as womyn overall have gotten much uglier, woker and fatter over the past decade. Don't envy today's male youth ;)

mell says

Also things have gotten worse for men as womyn overall have gotten much uglier, woker and fatter over the past decade.

Some good news. I went to Water Country last week and noticed that the porker trend has reversed as plenty of young women in bikinis that looked great. I noticed the same thing when I went to my daughter's college graduation in that the women were much more in shape that what I saw during her sophomore year.

HeadSet says

mell says

Also things have gotten worse for men as womyn overall have gotten much uglier, woker and fatter over the past decade.

Some good news. I went to Water Country last week and noticed that the porker trend has reversed as plenty of young women in bikinis that looked great. I noticed the same thing when I went to my daughter's college graduation in that the women were much more in shape that what I saw during her sophomore year.

That gives hope. I am not too much in tune with today's female teenagers as the oldest isn't dating yet. But I did notice the daycare staff and some of the younger female staff in general in my local gym to be quite cute and in shape. Maybe there is a reversal after Gen Z. Millenials and early Gen Z were mostly a loss in terms of looks. Gen X had quite many hotties thank God.

mell says

Also things have gotten worse for men as womyn overall have gotten much uglier, woker and fatter over the past decade. Don't envy today's male youth ;)

This is absolutely correct.

What used to be the one or two fat girls in a class of 300 is now like 70 in 300.

That's not an exaggeration, either. I think under 30 almost half the girls are overweight (BMI 24+), and half of those are obese (BMI 29+). The average woman is 5'3" ... and 173lb. That's border line obese, about 28-29 BMI if memory serves.

Then the garish nastytats, blech. Then throw in non-appearance factors like many of them can't cook beyond Ramen.

Another sad thing is when 35+ women suddenly get big bright tats. Only makes them look like long-term night workers around the docks.

No more 60's bush that looked like half an acre of tangled bramble. Toxic foods and Rockefeller hormone busters give the wimminz wispies and added poundage. They don't just drain the soy boys of T.

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/malevolent-anal-distraction

For those who do enter the field, structural bias may manifest in a variety of ways that can make underrepresented groups feel unseen or excluded, contribute to high attrition/low retention rates over time, and hinder career advancement. For example, one workshop participant shared a story about her challenges carrying heavy equipment for a nuclear safeguards verification role, and how men often carried her tools for her. Another participant separately reaffirmed this point, stating that some of the monitoring equipment weighs about 40 pounds and is worn on the body.

Women have trouble lifting heavy objects. Stupid sexist gravity. Also, when you offer to carry something for women struggling under the load, this reminds them that they aren’t as useful as you, and makes them resent you. Remember this the next time you’re tempted to help.

At this point, I only open doors, unless the bitches are racing me to the entrance just to let it shut in front of me.

Patrick says

Women have trouble lifting heavy objects.

Interesting. Today my wife was called by the single lady next door to borrow me to unload several 80lb or so boxes from her van into her garage.

SNL actually makes a semi-funny skit:

"Hallmark Horror" - because the only thing women love more than romance, is Murder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC8jBs4sUYQ

AmericanKulak says

SNL actually makes a semi-funny skit:

"Hallmark Horror" - because the only thing women love more than romance, is Murder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC8jBs4sUYQ

It is funny, right down to the token scrubbed up black woman 'noble advisor' role.

My wife has an endless bodice ripper appetite for these soap things. I have a fixed time at night for TV togetherness, but I have to dial her back as much as I can.

They are just high maintenance, expensive commodities. They don't like being cheap commodities.

What we need is fewer easily brainwashed, narcissistic makeup racks.

It's shocking to me how many plain Janes, even with the heavily caked on "natural" look, think they are all that and a bag of chips.

The Natural Look involves far more foundation and makeup than the craziest looks of the 70s or 80s, which was really just a bit of blush, eyeshadow, lipstick. To get the fake natural look it takes like 3lb of powder or cream.

https://nitter.poast.org/MikeBenzCyber/status/1835183119013409041



It makes sense that the CIA would be pushing feminism because it doubles the number of workers, driving down wages for the big employers who run the CIA.

The inadequacy predicate.

https://jameshowardkunstler.substack.com/p/wheezing-past-the-graveyard

Ms. Harris’s gaslight-powered campaign has lost its loft in recent days, its most newsworthy event being last week’s cuddle hour with America’s official Care-Bear, Oprah. . . because, you see, there is nothing left except to pander to the emotional void induced by Woke-ism in the desperately needy minds of X-million voters of the birthing-person persuasion — especially among those unhappy souls who never got around to the birthing.

Patrick says

especially among those unhappy souls who never got around to the birthing.

Childless cat ladies. Just say it out loud.

https://brighteyes.substack.com/p/the-fuck-rate-is-about-to-implode

The Fuck Rate is about to Implode

Civilization Requires Compromise

Society as Sex Trade

Our civilization is held together by a pact: mid men get pussy, everyone else gets core infrastructure.

This pact harnesses the single greatest source of psychic energy known to man: men’s desire to secure the partnership, youthful attention, and children of attractive women. It comes at a cost — high status men have to give up access to pussy they’d otherwise have, mid women have to settle for mid men early instead of sharing a high status man for a bit and then otherwise remaining single / mercenarily marrying at old age, which they’d prefer … but the cost is almost certainly worth it for everyone involved. Plumbing is nice, you know.

This pact has an intensive margin; the sweeter the deal you make for the mid men, the more civilization you can squeeze out of them. It’s pretty easy to e.g. do 80 hour weeks as a trucker if you have a thin, bubbly, hygienic, erstwhile virgin wife at home who’s given you three red-haired kids and is anxious about not giving you good enough blowjobs; doing so when she’s 30lbs overweight, angry, a slob, run through, barren, and expects you to “centre female pleasure” during sex is going to be a harder sell.

The former paradigm doesn’t come for free; in general, you’re going to need to build a social apparatus — religion, behavioral mores, unnatural standards — to shame women into it. And that shaming will inevitably make real, normal women unhappy. But in exchange you get more civilization.

Of course, different people have different tastes regarding the right amount of female shame to trade for plumbing and technological progress. But recently (e.g. in roughly the past century or so), an unhelpful notion has emerged; approximately, it’s the idea that you can take the trucker, give him the ugly wife, and get him to work as hard as he would if he had the hot wife with … shame. Needless to say, this notion is a core load-bearing-column for feminism.

At the bottom of it, the problem with this idea is that it’s not feasible in the long run; the women who cooked it up suffered from the typical mind fallacy, imagining men to be much more vulnerable to social shaming than they truly are. There’s generally only one thing that will motivate men to build more civilization — and it’s not shaming, it’s fucking disgusting.

Incel as Revolutionary

The long-run, inescapable equilibrium is one wherein truckers with ugly wives will not work as hard, and truckers with no wives may not work at all. Of course, all sociological systems are propped up by a mix of social conditioning and biological impulses, and re-equilibration is never instantaneous. A man raised under the hot wife paradigm might internalize certain principles like “a husband should sacrifice for his wife,” and continue to abide by those principles blindly even when he ends up marrying a sort-of-ugly woman. In the near term, the feminism egregore is banking on this precarious inertia carrying civilization forward, at least until a more sustainable solution can be discovered.

The incel is the single greatest threat to such an outcome, and therefore has captured the feminism egregore’s attention. Incels, as such, are not really a direct threat to anything; by construction, they’re too few and uncharismatic to do much of anything beyond random acts of small-scale violence. What they have managed to do, however, is speed-run the conjuring of a new egregore. Who knew that tight-knit groups of highly intelligent autistic men monomaniacally focused on a single problem could generate powerful ideas?

Feminism — a political programme which seeks to liberate mid women from their end of the bargain — will not go down without a fight. As the incel egregore gains converts, and mid men start defecting, it will generate a number of copes for its supporters.

AI/Robotics/Immigrants that will replace mid men are right around the corner, and then we’ll have plumbing again!

Right now there’s just a crisis of masculinity — if you help us shame mid men just a bit more, they’ll go back to being “responsible” (pay pigs)!

Men are being psyoped by baseless radical ideology; if we tweak the algorithm, they’ll go back to what your dad was like!

Men needing hot wives is only true when they’re socially conditioned to be pigs. We can convince them to work hard for ugly wives, they just need a bit of education!

These copes won’t do much of anything — the cat’s out of the bag — but they will generate a lot of heat. Much social commentary in the coming decade(s) will be exercises in such feminist cope, as the promise of cost-free female defection from the civilizational bargain slowly dies and the proverbial bill comes due for defectors. This process will be psychologically painful for many; the music will stop and tens of millions of mid women will realize that they’re priced out of the “eligible” husband market altogether. Female social circles will be rent into sexual haves and sexual have-nots.

The havoc these women will wreak won’t be insubstantial. The terminal feminist cope — that men changed the game on them halfway through — will be absolutely true. Their prospect of having it all, a defect/cooperate outcome, will evaporate in a few years time. The fuck rate will plummet, and there will be hell to pay. ...

Put simply, we have a major civilizational unraveling on our hands. Much of the things we assumed were conjured up by the magic of modernity — reliable core infrastructure, cheap food/energy/shipping, functional business apparatus — were in fact gifts bestowed upon us by a hungry god. We stopped sacrificing delicate virgins to him, and tried to offer angry fat hags in their stead. He’s wised to the ruse. ...

The outlook here is simple: this will not be an extinction event, but it will put serious pressure on civilizational infrastructure and produce a metric fuckton of female suffering. Hedge against the former by going long consumer goods, short industrials, and befriending a few handy mid men with pathologically high morale. Hedge against the latter by limiting social exposure to the kill zone — that is, concentrators of mid middle-aged women like academia, media, normie social media, politics, and corporate bureaucracy — sooner than later. It’s going to be a blood bath out there.

Patrick says

This pact harnesses the single greatest source of psychic energy known to man: men’s desire to secure the partnership, youthful attention, and children of attractive women.

Yes, the Aaron Clarey argument - another reason why Economics is bullshit. You'd think in over a century, somebody would have postulated sex with hot slim chicks as a massive motivator.

Seriously, without pussy, 95% of men would be happy with very little.

@Patrick

https://patrick.net/post/1382129/2024-09-23-incel-alert-civilization-is-screwed

I had an old college friend who passed away fairly young (cocaine abuse, at least when younger). He was pudgy, balding, hairy, dark hair and eyes and medium tall, but married (his family had money) a fair haired Irish lass with red hair, blue eyes and freckles from a Catholic college. They had two children, but I lost touch with him due to his frightening involvement with drugs. I read his obituary, and saw that his wife had a third child when they were married. This third girl in no way was my friend's daughter. His wife obviously went out and had a fuck child from some tall, blonde, blue eyed surfer type. I never saw pictures of the other two kids, the wife really was most vested in this third girl.

I think that is a common pattern for the 'mids' type providing males. They get a couple of kids of their own, but the wife will get pregnant with a fantasy stud to produce a child for herself.

"I wear it to be comfortable"

Nuclear Caudillo is releasing the DMs he got from a typical late 20s "Where are all the Good Men, I need 6-6-6" influencer on X who is a 6 at best.
https://x.com/CaudilloNuclear/status/1838986435304505422

Take the births per women figures...and cut them by half at least. For bluetard zones and college brainwashed femmy bitches in particular.

THIS is the crux of Vance's Childless Cat Ladies elegy.

Whereas states like Utah & working class Americans, it won't be as bad.

Libtards are being bred out. Ppl will send their kids to US universities for graduate level education only. Bypasses the woke brainwashing that the majority of undergrad 'studies' involves.

So yes. We are winning. But they won't go down w/o a fight. This feminist delusion crap is just a sign of it.

Both men and women are significantly happier if married with children.

Patrick says

Both men and women are significantly happier if married with children.

True dat - BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME FUCKING TEAM! in the married case. (God, I hope so.)

- Fr. Matfre Ermengau, 1288

Patrick says

You get what you subsidize.

AmericanKulak says

Nuclear Caudillo is releasing the DMs he got from a typical late 20s "Where are all the Good Men, I need 6-6-6" influencer on X who is a 6 at best.
https://x.com/CaudilloNuclear/status/1838986435304505422

seen too many asian gold diggers out there, this is not a surprise to me. probably average.

Illuminati Card Game again"