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Patrick says

Hence, dissimulation is
innate in woman and almost as characteristic of the very stupid as of the clever.

ALL women do this.

It's amazing the internet has finally done what men have tried for 1000s of years; to figure out women.

They leave out the one important fact that changes the whole perspective.

Somebody in a chat mentioned this to me, and I was like, Nah, this has to be some perv's fart fetish obsession fanfic.

Nope, official DC Comics Product: The Harley Quinn scratch n' smell farts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoMn2yGNK14&t=35s

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2024/12/paul-craig-roberts/the-disappearance-of-the-male-role/

Over the course of my lifetime I have watched the role of men taken away. The role of the male as provider, defender, and disciplinarian is no more. It was destroyed by feminists.

To clarify “feminist”: In the past when I have criticized feminists older women who had careers asked why I thought women shouldn’t have careers. Their idea is that a feminist is a woman who has a career. But women have always had careers as mothers, homemakers, grandmothers, school teachers, nurses, secretaries, writers, artists, musicians, scientists, and even spies such as Eve Gordon who made during World War II 112 parachute jumps into occupied Europe. Even in pre-feminist days, one of my aunts despite being married had a career outside the home. She enjoyed the discipline of getting to work on time, the interaction with other people, and meeting new ones.

By feminist I mean a person with an ideological agenda of obliterating the difference between men and women. When I was young men were raised to respect women. When a woman entered a room, the men stood. Doors were opened for women and their entrance proceeded the man’s. Car doors were opened for women who were helped in and out. At the dining table men stood until the women were seated. In those days men still wore hats. A gentleman passing a lady on the sidewalk was expected to tip his hat in respect. A man who struck a woman or used a four-letter word in a lady’s presence suffered a ruined reputation.

Feminists derided the many ways in which respect was shown to women as “placing women on a pedestal.” Showing respect for women was somehow undervaluing them and treating them unequally. Feminists insisted on women being pulled down into the gutter with men.

Big brothers were taught to protect little sisters. It was little brother’s job to learn to protect himself, and fights on the school playground was part of the learning process.

Today men are no longer taught to protect women. But it is a natural inclination in men. Studies have concluded that the introduction of women soldiers into conflict causes a loss of cohesion and focus, because men become distracted by concern for the women.

Feminists were not happy until they destroyed men’s colleges, male leadership in politics, military, and business, men’s clubs and male organizations such as the Boy Scouts which was forced to take in girls. Even the military has been taken from men. How is there a band of brothers when the commander is female?

Men have lost their role. They are no longer the provider. The wife might have, thanks to gender preferences in university admissions, employment, and promotion, the better job bringing in more income. Studies conclude that boys suffer depression from loss of a role. Reportedly, the suicide rate of boys and young men has been rising.

What the feminists have established is a new form of male deference to women. Males must stand aside and give up their role to women.

Feminist were not content to only destroy men. They destroyed women also. The idea of a chaste woman was objectionable because it held women to a higher standard than men.

Helen Gurley Brown, editor-in-chief of Cosmopolitan magazine, used the magazine to encourage women to be harlots. In the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s Cosmopolitan was a fixture in the waiting rooms of doctors and dentists. I often wondered what my mother and grandmothers would have thought of a woman’s magazine, the cover of which heralded articles titled “How to be unfaithful to your husband without being caught,” “how to find a sex partner when on vacation without your boy friend,” “how to manage multiple sex partners.”

Today young women support themselves with their porn sites. Women brag on social media about having had 150 sexual partners, sparking rivals to vow attaining higher levels of wantonness. Female school teachers get themselves pregnant by their under age students. Mothers have 12-year old daughters on birth control pills. School children are sexualized at an early age to get them ready for the legalization of pedophiles, now euphemized as “minor attracted persons.”

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All you losing your mind that I do not think modern women deserve courtship. Watch this clip from our show. Some background: When this episode aired, she was 28. Average looking woman, ordinary, normal, unassuming, with a normal job working at a law firm. Not a content creator, not on OF. Just a normal woman.

She admits she goes on dates all the while sleeping with other men. There is no chance I am being chivalrous, paying for dates, or "putting in effort" for a woman who is sleeping with other men. In fact, I have ZERO interest in a woman if there is another guy in the picture. There would be NO DATE at all.

Her mindset is INCREDIBLY common, even among "normal" women. Especially if you meet them on a dating app, it's HIGHLY likely she is sleeping with another man. Promiscuity is rampant, and this idea that it's only a small % of women is laughable.

It's EXTREMELY common for men to encounter women who are involved with another man (or multiple men). Men should proceed with caution when dating, and avoid dating women who are not PROPERLY single.

The point is that women who haven't held up their end of the deal still want men to be traditional. They want men to put in effort, but they don't deserve it. Do they still get it? Sure. A lot of simps out there. But they don't deserve it. And prescriptively, men should withhold romantic gestures from undeserving women, or better yet -- not even date them at all.

https://x.com/whatever/status/1875755882564448593

AmericanKulak says

The point is that women who haven't held up their end of the deal still want men to be traditional. They want men to put in effort, but they don't deserve it.

Yes, but are men holding up their end of deal? That is, those men are not sleeping with other women? Or is the premise that the woman stays chaste while the men, because they pay for the dates, are allowed to sleep around?

HeadSet says

That is, those men are not sleeping with other women?

That's not their end of the deal.

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

That's not their end of the deal.

Using traditional principles, I would say it is, for two reasons. Firstly, if one ends up knocking up a rando he is then responsible for her child and, to some degree, its mother. He will then have to divert resources from his family. Secondly is it the role of men to protect the weaker sex, not to take advantage of women.

yawaraf says

Using traditional principles, I would say it is, for two reasons. Firstly, if one ends up knocking up a rando he is then responsible for her child and, to some degree, its mother. He will then have to divert resources from his family. Secondly is it the role of men to protect the weaker sex, not to take advantage of women.

That's not the deal. The deal is to support her and their children. That's it.

The law used to reflect that. No more.

Who supports the bastards then? Do we let them run around without discipline? Do we let them get abused by strangers?

I understand the a man might not have had any legal obligation to illegitimate children, and a woman was (at still is) stupid to open up her legs to someone who is not her husband, but is that the kind of society you want to live in?

yawaraf says

Who supports the bastards then? Do we let them run around without discipline? Do we let them get abused by strangers?

That was caused by no-fault "I'm not haaaaaaapy anymore" divorce, and the elimination of shame for women who divorced decent men and their exclusion from larger social groups.

HeadSet says

Yes, but are men holding up their end of deal? That is, those men are not sleeping with other women? Or is the premise that the woman stays chaste while the men, because they pay for the dates, are allowed to sleep around?

Men haven't changed. Most men will sleep with a chick if it's on offer.

Women used to be shamed if they slept with guys outside marriage, then outside a LTR, and now aren't shamed at ALL, but expect men to be as chivalrous as ever while dating. Nah, shit deal.

Most men were happy dating a chick in hopes of going steady on the 3rd date and getting laid - provided she didn't keep a guy on the side while allowing him to spend money on her.

It simply isn't working, and it's not pron. It was easy divorce and birth control. More evidence it isn't Corn is that the birth rates began to plummet and divorce rates explode in the mid 60s, and the last big leg down was with smartphones, social media 2.0, and dating apps in the late 2000s, not Theaters in the 70s, VHS in the 80s, internet in the 90s.

Bulls go where the cows are. Shaming men doesn't work, never has, that's why no society in history bothered with shaming men much. It works great on women, who are far more sensitive to social shame, pecking order of hens, etc. than men.

yawaraf says

I understand the a man might not have had any legal obligation to illegitimate children, and a woman was (at still is) stupid to open up her legs to someone who is not her husband, but is that the kind of society you want to live in?

You mean the society we had before? With stable nuclear families predominating? Even with Blacks?

Fuck yeah. I most certainly do want to live in such a FUNCTIONAL society again.

You seem to equate 'fair' as having to be just as important as 'functional' or part of it. It is not.

You can't get 1954 stability and prosperity with the laws and social environment of 2024.

Porn has been restricted in South Korea since 2009 and banned since 2019. Birth and marriage rates still stink. 60%+ of OF subscribers are married men in an age when less than half the men under 50 are married.

"I want traditionalism, but not a fiery redhead wife to get the spanking she deserves"

HeadSet says

AmericanKulak says

The point is that women who haven't held up their end of the deal still want men to be traditional. They want men to put in effort, but they don't deserve it.

Yes, but are men holding up their end of deal? That is, those men are not sleeping with other women? Or is the premise that the woman stays chaste while the men, because they pay for the dates, are allowed to sleep around?

Of course not, biology demands men to spread their seeds and women to nest for the human race to be successful. That's why most women don't want a man for family/marriage who hasn't slept with at least a dozen chicks or more, but men don't want women for family/marriage who have slept with more than 5-10 partners. The men need to get their rocks off to know what they want and when they want it, but for women promiscuity is detrimental to their natural sense of family/marriage, so is birth control as it alters their taste. This is all scientifically proven but nobody can admit to it out of fear of being canceled. Ironically usually the worst choice for women in terms of stability is a type A uber successful man, often somewhat of a social sociopath, but it's what they crave most. Biodynamics are tricky.